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    [–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

    Hopefully they use OpenPilot, so Linux drives the car.

    [–] [email protected] 13 points 2 months ago

    This is the only way Bill Gates can go to the grocery store unaccosted.

    [–] [email protected] 114 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    Hey wait a minute... that car has windows on it!

    [–] [email protected] 28 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

    I wonder if they have been a user since 1991. If so that's pretty impressive. Given that would be the same year Linus send his infamous newsgroup email announcing his work to port Minix.

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    [–] [email protected] 21 points 2 months ago

    I hope he's gone and cut the telemetry from this car... if not, I'd say poser.

    [–] [email protected] 32 points 2 months ago (1 children)

    Are you even a Linux user if you don't randomly wonder what operating system the person in front of you in traffic prefers? It's a good thing that this person says "wonder no more."

    [–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

    I actually don't care to be honest.

    [–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)
    [–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

    No. I am Spartacus.

    [–] [email protected] 32 points 2 months ago (4 children)

    Bold of you to assume a lemmy user would drive

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    [–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago (5 children)

    you either go back to windows, or turn into this guy. There is no 3rd option.

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    [–] [email protected] 25 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

    Maybe it's cause I'm a dad now but this really resonates with me.

    He has to be aware how niche his passion is, but he does it anyway in defiance.

    [–] [email protected] 43 points 2 months ago (1 children)

    Well you can tell they don’t use arch because there’s no humblebrag sticker

    [–] [email protected] 29 points 2 months ago

    This? This the car of a Slackware enjoyer.

    [–] [email protected] 82 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    Most cars already run on Linux

    [–] [email protected] 24 points 2 months ago (5 children)

    Until recently, I had a Ford Flex.

    The only thing I didn't like about it was the proud "powered by Microsoft" emblem (and its implications).

    [–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

    The entertainment system might run something windows based, but there are dozens of microcontrollers that do run linux.

    [–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago (4 children)

    Sure, and for the eight years I owned it before it broke down beyond being worth repairing, I had no problem with those. The infotainment system did kinda suck, but it was a 2014 so I think it would get some leeway for that even if it weren't Microsoft powered.

    The emblem just offended my sensibilities. I never pulled it off, though, because the friends who rode with me all knew how passionately I feel about Linux (they mostly also work with it - I try not to proselytize to the disinterested) and found it funny.

    According to KBB, the car was worth $8k when it broke down. I put almost double that into repairing the same part of the engine at three different mechanics before giving up. Sadly, for some silly reason, Ford no longer makes the Flex. I think the Explorer is pretty close, but I couldn't find one close enough to test drive. I would have loved to convert my car to an EV, but I wouldn't trust my own work on that front and didn't want to pay as much as would cost to have a professional do it.

    Every time I get into my new vehicle - a 2024 Ford Edge - I think to myself how much I miss the Flex. That said, I did get a great deal on the Edge.

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    [–] [email protected] 48 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

    Ironically, my cars don't run Linux for the same reason my computers do: I'm militant about protecting my property rights and privacy, so I refuse to have any car new enough to have "infotainment" because it's all closed-source and Tivoized. It's effectively hostile, despite the Linux kernel at the bottom of it.

    I'll buy a car made after the mid-2000s when I can re-flash the whole thing with non-DRM'd community-supported software, and not a minute before.

    [–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (4 children)

    That'll literally never happen due to testing and safety requirements.

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    [–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

    I’m in the same boat. So much that I just paid a bunch to replace the transmission of my 2012.. I could probably have not done that and invested in something newer, but I don’t… want that…

    I’ll stick with just getting more of this exact car when this one isn’t repairable anymore (it has telemetry, but it can’t be accessed without plugging in directly, which isn’t typically a huge concern I have) Or when they can be flashed, as you say. Like I’d love to have an EV because I rarely drive far, but I absolutely won’t buy a spymobile to get one.

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    [–] [email protected] 17 points 2 months ago (1 children)

    I mean; there's nothing stopping you from using a car from an earlier era; and bodging in an Android Tablet into your dashboard as an infotainment system.

    The thing doesn't need to be concerned with your climate controls or anything else on your CAN bus for security reasons anyways. So you can leave those controls as they are and just let the tablet replace your Radio effectively for 100% DRM free media enjoyment with your favorite fully rooted and flashed tablet running whatever FLOSS version of Android firmware you like.

    [–] [email protected] 25 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

    Personally there's just certain controls in a car I firmly believe should NEVER be digitized anyways.

    [–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

    To a degree yes, but this madman probably has the ECU running Linux.

    [–] [email protected] 16 points 2 months ago (1 children)

    Linux is not a real-time OS*. For a car ECU, something like Speeduino would be a more appropriate choice.

    (* Or wasn't until a week or so ago, at least. https://www.zdnet.com/article/20-years-later-real-time-linux-makes-it-to-the-kernel-really/)

    [–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

    That’s the joke 😉

    You could certainly do it but let’s hope that fuel injection timings and realtime system response aren’t that important to you.

    [–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

    https://lwn.net/Articles/816298/

    Worked with the guy, he was a true kernel monster.

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

    That's really cool! Do you know of real-world systems using this?

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    [–] [email protected] 13 points 2 months ago (1 children)

    If I had a car it would probably look like this

    [–] [email protected] 13 points 2 months ago (1 children)

    Real Linux aficionados don't have cars; that would require leaving the basement.

    [–] [email protected] 13 points 2 months ago

    I'm using Arch btw

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