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[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

The thought process of " I'm not going to be fact checked so I'll just say the same shit anyway."

It's wild how blatant they are being to get clips for their brain rot base to eat up.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I thought Vance won the debate (mostly through Gish galloping), but I'm not sure it's going to matter. The big moment of the evening was him being muted for aggressively talking over two women, and it wasn't a great look. I'm sure it played well to Trump's base of incels who hate journalists, but I doubt anyone else found it very appealing.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I loved that they repeatedly tried to get him to stop talking so they could talk but he kept going, got muted, and you could still hear him continuing to talk in the background, and when he realized he was muted he got louder in the background to try to be heard by more microphones anyway

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

Yeah, considering how bad their campaign did with abortion, cat ladies, and misogynistic bullshit, my gut says this moment did some damage.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Usernames that make you go "Wait, what?" and then transport you back in time 30 years.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

It's an Amazon TV show now with two recent seasons...

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago

I care not for the Dragon Reborn. I follow the Car'a'carn.

[–] [email protected] 47 points 2 months ago (1 children)

“You childless moderators contribute nothing of value to society!” -Vance said in response, mascara bleeding down his cheeks.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago

He definitely was not wearing mascara. He may have been wearing extra makeup to occlude his dreamy eyelashes, wait, I thought this was a funny way to go. These fascists such as Vance and Trump hate freedom. They hate personal autonomy.

[–] [email protected] 67 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Oh the mods came ready. They did fact checking and took no shit. It was glorious to watch.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 months ago (2 children)

No.

Its a stalemate. JD Vance accomplished what he needed to rally Republicans to this cause. Which is to shit on the moderators and make it sound like Walz and the Moderators are in cahoots. Worse, this kind of meta-debate is on-brand for the Republican strategy.

This is why fact-checking is so hard, because when you do it wrong it solidifies a huge number of Americans against the fact-checker and can even rally them to JD Vance's side.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Fact checking isn’t hard if you go by facts. Your response about ‘sounds like’ is contradictory is so many ways

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 months ago

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brandolini's_law

The amount of energy needed to refute bullshit is an order of magnitude bigger than that needed to produce it.

Did you watch when they fact checked Trump on migrants and pets? People still believe it to be true.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Oh sweetie. I'm sorry to ask this,but where the fuck have you been the past 8~9 years!? C'mon dude. We're in over our heads inside la-la land; where you can just make up whatever you want and hordes of people believe it because they want to. Facts don't matter if you don't want them to.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 months ago

Well no shit. You still have to say something. Even if you question if there is a soul on the receiving end

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Fact checking isn’t hard if you go by facts.

For fucks sake did you not exist between the years 2016 and 2020?

My mom literally still thinks Obama is a Muslim.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 2 months ago

has CBS explained why the moderators intervened and fact checked him? I'm going to assume some laywers stepped in and said, "We can't air that. We'll be sued to oblivion."

but also, like, Saying "we're not" and then doing it certainly feeds into the narrative that they were trying to help Walz. at least in republican minds.