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I wanna read something that's fucking brutal with fighting and sex and all the things, but also WELL WRITTEN (so NOT George R.R. Martin, I can't stand his shit). I want Lord of the Rings on crack and steroids.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

I read John Ringo when I was younger (early 20's); it has a lot of what you are looking for.

I wouldn't call it high art, but the writing is fairly good.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

The Bound Gods series by Rachel Dunne is pretty brutal and bleak. Not a lot of sex but there's baby killing, eye gouging, and enslavement. Zero characters make it unscathed and most simply don't make it. It's quite a ride.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

Lot's of really good recommendations here already. One series I don't see discussed much is the Acts of Caine series by Matthew Stover and I think it's exactly what you're after: shit talking, badass, tortured anti-hero in a deeply depraved and corrupt world with copious violence and sex and a deep and well written story.

Each of the 4 books is self contained but they are worth reading chronologically, starting with Heroes Die. The audio book is also fucking terrific.

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/311864.Heroes_Die

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Lies of Locke Lamora is beautifully written gritty fantasy. Thus far there are 3 books in the series.

I've never read the Warhammer 40K books so I can speak to the quality of writing, but the series definitely matches the genre of interest.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

I really enjoyed reading 40k books when I was younger, but they're generally shit writing. The kind of complete schlock that is good when you want to turn off the brain.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

NK Jemisen’s the fifth season was amazing. It won a Hugo. Then the sequel was amazing and different and won the Hugo.

Then the last book in the trilogy was crazier and won the Hugo.

Truly wild magic and a very very brutal world.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Is it necessary to read the previous four seasons as well or can you skip those?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

Heh, nice one.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

Mark Lawrence - Prince of Thorns. Loose fit but it scratches that itch for me anyway. Maybe it will for you too.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

Might I recommend the Night Angel trilogy by Brent Weeks?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (3 children)

I've been hyping up Dresden Files in damn near every book thread for the last four months, but damn if it doesn't fit here too. There's sex and murder in nearly every one of the books. The murder is very rarely clean, and the stakes are never low. Jim Butcher is one of my very favorite authors now, by a significant margin.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

Dresden Files are great. One of my favourite series. I am going through all the books slowly, don't want to run out of them before the next one releases. Generally read a book every month or so. Last one I read was White Night. Going to start Small Favor when I am done with my current book.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

My guilty pleasure. His books draw me in but some of the sexism/arrogance (especially in earlier books) makes me cringe. Doesn't stop me from staying up too late to finish one if I've started. Butcher knows how to keep me hooked.

His newer series the cinder spires is quite good as well.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I just finished reading through the entire series a month or two ago - what a fantastic series.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

It has completely consumed my life for the last several months. I'm partway through Changes right now. I can't remember the last time I was this completely absorbed in a book series.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (3 children)

TIL there's a sub here for books.

Terry Goodkind wrote the Sword of Truth series beginning with The Wizard's First rule in 1994, with 17 books in the main series and I believe still ongoing. Not much sex, but it has the brutality down, and is very well written.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Love the series, read it multiple times. It seems to get a lot of hate but I don't get why. I like the story, hate the villains, and can get invested in the characters. Plus it's very adult. My favorites series hands down.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

There are two aspects to it, one the books, and second the author. Author isn't very likable, if you read some of his interviews you will understand. His opinion about himself, about fantasy, and general readers (and authors) of fantasy can be a bit annoying. As for the books, they sometimes have very stupid writing.

It has been a long time since I read the series, but one scene that I remember on top of my head, there was a woman (or group of them), who has to escape / pass through the whole army, so they go topless, cause then all the men in army will not be looking at their face and won't recognize them.

There were many other things like that.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

First off, that scene isn't so they don't recognize their faces. It's to look like spirits and scare/shock them. They were a small army trying to use crazy tactics, I don't see what's so wrong about that. I've read it multiple times and I don't remember a point where they go topless implying no one would ever look at their face if they were topless.

As for the author, I don't know much about him, but I like the books. And way I think Michael Jackson is a bad person but I can still enjoy his music.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I absolutely understand why people hate it. on lemmy, probably because of themes that could be interpreted as being anti communist. In the real world, because of how it mocks religion quite viciously, and promotes critical thinking.

Also multiple strong female characters who are well written, that really pisses people off.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Lol, the "strong female characters" and critical thinking of The Sword of Truth series. Might as well push Atlas Shrugged because "it's got a female author"

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

i haven't actually read Atlas Shrugged, probably should considering how often it's referenced in discussions on literature.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

It's hard to get through... it's huge, but keeps bludgeoning you with the same cartoonish ideas over and over again until you're just exhausted. Kind of worth reading, just because it does come up in discussions so often, but don't necessarily expect to enjoy it.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I regret that I have but one downvote to give. Wizard's First Rule is literally the worst book I ever read. (A lot of people do seem to like it, though.)

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I'm going to choose to interpret your comment as charitably as possible, and that your library is the best curated on the planet. What have you been reading?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

Hah, I did mean it in the spirit of good discussion. (Though maybe I also feel like I have a sacred mission to keep the unwary from inadvertently Goodkinding themselves!)

I've actually been having a hard time getting into anything new lately for some reason, but I recently reread C. S. Friedman's Coldfire and Magister series (serieses? trilogies), which are kind of dark, but not so "gritty, gorey" that I thought they'd be a good recommendation for this thread. The former in particular is excellent, and they're both fairly unusual takes on fantasy.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Wizard's First Rule is the only tolerable book, if barely. They're all thinly veiled (not thinly veiled) fetish writing, or high school level political theory.

At a certain point it's clear that Terry fired enough editors that the remaining ones stopped trying.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

Yeah Wizard's First Rule even had a decent stopping point at the end, iirc? That or by the third or so. Good enough read if you're an edgy teen.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

Goes weird and hard to follow after the 4th book. Even the 4th was a bit of a drag

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

Another vote for anything Steven Erikson or R Scott Bakker

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