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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/20368770

It’s easy to understand if you realize that America is essentially a corporation rather than a country, and that country is only representing its shareholders.

In case you’re confused - if you’re not rich and powerful, you’re not a shareholder. You’re an employee or a commodity or an expense, and you exist to enrich the shareholder class.

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[–] benni@lemmy.world 41 points 3 months ago

Looking at the US candidates from Germany, this is always how Bernie appeared to me.

[–] N0body@lemmy.dbzer0.com 225 points 3 months ago (8 children)

America had a moment in the 60s and 70s where real change might have been possible. Then Reagan took over in the 80s and selfishness and greed somehow became virtues.

They instilled a sense that helping others makes you dumb and gullible. Strong, smart people get theirs and fuck everyone else.

People who need help are just taking your money to buy drugs and can easily get a job and become middle class instantaneously.

Then a few decades later, the middle class disappeared, and everyone became poor and struggling. Corporate profits keep breaking records, though. Economic inequality in America has surpassed pre-Revolution France. Every billionaire is Louis XIV-level rich and indulgent.

[–] Samvega@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

They instilled a sense that helping others makes you dumb and gullible. Strong, smart people get theirs and fuck everyone else.

That sense must surely have been already there, because you couldn't instil it easily if most people genuinely believed otherwise.

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[–] princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone 108 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Honestly, it's incredibly naive to think that America's issues started with Reagan. The McCarthy witch hunts against communism happened in the 1950s. They targeted education institutions, as well as people that believed in democratic socialism. It stopped a generation from coming up through college and having those values instilled. It was that generation that passed reforms like universal healthcare in other western countries. Reagan was just a product of that system, he wasn't the root cause.

[–] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 28 points 3 months ago

It is a bit like saying "feminism was going perfectly until Phyllis Schlafly came along!" There's a point to be made in there somewhere, but it suffers from a want of depth.

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[–] SidewaysHighways@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago

Just long enough for operation paperclip to have settled in and start grassrooting some real patriotism

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 60 points 3 months ago (4 children)

We survived the Gilded Age. We can survive this, if we fight. Labor revival, revitalized progressive movement, voting reform...

Nothing in life is guaranteed, but I still hold out hope that we'll join the developed world in the coming years.

[–] Huschke@lemmy.world 24 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

I don't want to burst your bubble, but the developed world, or rather the people in charge of it, took a good look at you guys and decided they wanted to live like kings as well.

Since then, they have steadily dismantled institution after institution while telling people that immigration is the reason their lives are getting worse. It won't be long before we lose access to good, free healthcare, safe and affordable education, and all the other qualities of life we've enjoyed for so long

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[–] Jimbo@yiffit.net 13 points 3 months ago

I am not enjoying Gilded Age II: Electric Boogaloo

[–] TheKingBee@lemmy.world 40 points 3 months ago (1 children)

If we had an unlimited timeline I'd buy that, the problem is climate change will make all but struggle inevitable in ~75 years at the rate we're destroying it.

Famine, water wars, and billions of climate migrants will destroy any hope of an egalitarian revolution...

[–] Huschke@lemmy.world 15 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

75 years is a very optimistic timeline. The things you mentioned are already starting to happen.

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[–] usernamesAreTricky@lemmy.ml 20 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Yep, get active, get involved, and volunteer. We don't have to just hope, we can be a part of making it happen

Whether that be for a union or a political campaign, they are won when we fight for them

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[–] Greyghoster@aussie.zone 16 points 3 months ago

That’s why the Open Market Committee is the most important organ of US government. It adjusts the rules to maximise shareholder value. It’s great if you are a billionaire.

[–] DarkShaggy@lemmy.world 94 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Yep truth...one of the only candidates I ever gave serious money to. His platform was basically "Hey let's catch up to the rest of the 1st world nations shall we?"....

[–] Mr_Blott@feddit.uk 42 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Uh guys, even the "giving money to politicians" thing is really fucking weird

[–] Hamartia@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

Starmer seems to disagree.

[–] perspectiveshifting@sh.itjust.works 9 points 3 months ago (5 children)

Is this not a thing in other western countries? Serious question and would appreciate knowing more

[–] Takios@discuss.tchncs.de 13 points 3 months ago

Germany here. We do donate to parties, but not individual politicians.

[–] DJDarren@thelemmy.club 4 points 3 months ago

Brit here. I’ve never donated to a political campaign in my life. I’m not even sure how I would.

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

bribery is illegal in most normal countries, not just western

[–] lostme@lemmy.world 15 points 3 months ago

Giving money to politicians is generally considered bribery, because it is

[–] Mr_Blott@feddit.uk 8 points 3 months ago

Fuck no! We thought yous just....like giving money to already rich people.

Admit it, yous are weird like that

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