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Drinking 3 cups of coffee linked to preventing multiple diseases (studyfinds.org)

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WASHINGTON — A new study suggests that your morning brew might be doing more than just perking you up — it could be protecting you from a range of serious heart conditions. Researchers working with the Endocrine Society have found that drinking a moderate amount of coffee is associated with a lower risk of developing multiple cardiometabolic diseases. In simpler terms, your daily cup of coffee (or three) might help ward off conditions like Type 2 diabetes, heart disease, and stroke.

“Consuming three cups of coffee, or 200-300 mg caffeine, per day might help to reduce the risk of developing cardiometabolic multimorbidity in individuals without any cardiometabolic disease,” says Dr. Chaofu Ke, the lead author of the study from Suzhou Medical College in China, in a media release.

Source: https://studyfinds.org/3-cups-of-coffee-diseases/

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Considering that coffee is probably the highest source of antioxidants in a person's diet, there will be some health benefits. Just dont add dairy milk to it, or it will blunt absorption. Soy milk is fine.

But if you're an overweight, overworked, stress filled couch potato who doesn't exercise and eats poorly, then you're health is screwed regardless of how much coffee you drink 😂

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Well...I drink decaf. The internet seems to think coffee=caffeine. I can never find info about drinking decaf coffee.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)

That’s because decaf drinkers die within 30 days.

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

than just perking you up

It doesn't, if you're a regular drinker. Rather, you get withdrawal symptoms at morning.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Scandinavia has one of the highest per capita consumption of coffee, maybe it's just a correlation with healthcare /s

[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 months ago (8 children)

I drink coffee but I put no faith in this reports that always seem to go one way or another. Just drink it in moderation. It wasn't that long ago a glass of wine a day was considered healthy too.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago (5 children)

It isn't anymore?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago (2 children)

The latest few reports have linked even mild drinking to increased cancer risks.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago

No, alcohol has always been toxic. just like tobacco. Might see the same restrictions on their ads in the future.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (5 children)

Alcohol is a toxin.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

Do not enable me!

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Per day***

The headline makes it seem like it's per lifetime or something.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Correlation != Causation

[–] [email protected] -3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Almost all science and logic in the history of the world is based on correlation. Discovering the causal link comes later, or more often than not never.

Your glib comment seems smart to people on the internet, but what it actually demonstrates is a complete lack of understand of both words.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 months ago

I don't care this is good enough for me

[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It’s also linked to me having an anxiety attack before the day is done. Talking from experience.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

Speed of any sort can exacerbate panic attacks. Been there done that.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Yes yes, studies show this, studies show that. And they all contradict each other, especially if you just wait a few years for things to come full circle.

It's gotten to a point where I just don't believe them any more.

Maybe coffee does in some circumstances with some people have a link to preventing diseases. Or maybe not.

We've seen, and will continue to see, well researched scientific studies that argue both sides of this, until the end of history.

Believe whatever makes you feel better, that's all you can do, really.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago

That's the journalists' fault. They have no business going through studies like this, that are not meant for them to make conclusions.

Believe whatever makes you feel better, that's all you can do, really.

Just stop spreading this bs, and stop reading news like these. Believe what accredited sources tell you, like your doctor or other professionals

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

And none of these studies seem to talk about genetics. Ozzy Osbourne and I can drop hella drugs and alcohol, be just fine. OK. That has no bearing for the rest of humanity.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

And i can drink coffee and or sugary caffinated drinks right before i go to bed and be asleep in 10 minutes ad sleep like a rock, undisturbable by anything short of 4 alarms up to 12 hours later.

Sugar and caffeine actually make me sleepy.

But thats not how it is for everyone else.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You know the fact that you need 4 alarms is probably because the caffeine kills your sleep quality right?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

Maybe. But i dont need to have caffeine in order to need multiple alarms to wake up.

I think it's more out of habit.

Like i said, caffeine makes me sleepy. Thats common amongst people with ADHD.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 months ago

That's the journalists that inflate the meaning of these studies. The study itself will just say "we did measurements like this, here's the data" and probably even "we should do more studies to confirm or deny or narrow it down".

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[–] [email protected] 48 points 2 months ago (7 children)

Coffee, wine, chocolate... it feels like every day there's a new study showing how they're either great for you or how they're giving you cancer.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 months ago

Most of these do not account for socioeconomic status of the test subjects or people willfully ignore them for a better narrative in derivative articles. They therefore boil down to: "people who can afford nice things live longer" Which would not be a great headline.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

A new study? You probably mean a new, desperate, desperate article.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Much like the way we were told for ages that a glass of wine every day was good for our health. I think the latest research is showing no evidence of that, but rather that any amount of alcohol raises the risk of cancer.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

People who drink moderate amounts of wine regularly tend to have higher income, and thus better health in general. At least that's the last generally accepting hypothesis I last saw.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

A problem with the older studies that seemed to indicate that alcohol had health benefits was also that their control group, the people who didn’t drink, turned out largely not to do so because they already had severe medical problems. They weren’t allowed to drink because of them.

Compared to them it looked like the people who did drink were more healthy on average. So they concluded there must be health benefits to drinking alcohol.

This “Science VS” episode is about that (and has a bunch of citations in its transcript): https://gimletmedia.com/shows/science-vs/llhdgj

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

The era of that was also the first time these studies were being done predominantly with non-smokers. It was hard to disentangle the health effects of smoking with everything else. Smoking rates drop through the 80s and 90s, and wine and coffee suddenly look pretty good compared to how bad we thought they were.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 months ago

Why not both? They might be all true. It is totally possible something reduces your chance to get diabetes but increases your chance for liver cancer.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 months ago

I remember when "studies said" a glass of wine each day (week?) is good for your health.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 months ago

Direct link: https://academic.oup.com/jcem/advance-article-abstract/doi/10.1210/clinem/dgae552/7754545

tl;dr: Cardiometabolic multimorbidity is the co-occurrence of two or three cardiometabolic diseases, including diabetes, heart disease, and stroke. This study found that habitual coffee or caffeine intake, especially at a moderate level, was associated with a lower risk of new-onset CM.

Seems like a bit of a reach. Habitual caffeine intake means that you won't get both diabetes and a stroke? I'm not convinced this is useful information.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I drink 6... Is that twice as good?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

Mathematically it works out to half the ~~cancer~~ type 2 diabetes and stroke.

Edit: Fixed the disease

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

So, is this based on the model where infinite coffee make you immortal?

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Halve?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

Any noun can be verbed.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

Technically either one is correct in this case!

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago

That's about caffeine, not coffee exactly, also beware studies that say 'might'.

[–] [email protected] 60 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I choose to believe all the studies that say coffee is healthy and none that say it is not. I won’t change my coffee drinking habits regardless, so best think positively?

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