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WASHINGTON — A new study suggests that your morning brew might be doing more than just perking you up — it could be protecting you from a range of serious heart conditions. Researchers working with the Endocrine Society have found that drinking a moderate amount of coffee is associated with a lower risk of developing multiple cardiometabolic diseases. In simpler terms, your daily cup of coffee (or three) might help ward off conditions like Type 2 diabetes, heart disease, and stroke.

“Consuming three cups of coffee, or 200-300 mg caffeine, per day might help to reduce the risk of developing cardiometabolic multimorbidity in individuals without any cardiometabolic disease,” says Dr. Chaofu Ke, the lead author of the study from Suzhou Medical College in China, in a media release.

Source: https://studyfinds.org/3-cups-of-coffee-diseases/

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I drink coffee but I put no faith in this reports that always seem to go one way or another. Just drink it in moderation. It wasn't that long ago a glass of wine a day was considered healthy too.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

No it wasn’t that long ago https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6099584/#:~:text=The%20tannin%20extracts%20improved%20cardiovascular,myocardial%20infarction%20and%20its%20prevention.

And it’s been cited in more recent blue zone study as well.

This isn’t a ticket for an alcoholic to go off drinking, they’d probably be best off still abstaining as the benefits would be obliterated by the negatives.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (2 children)

It's not. Just eat the grapes or grape leaves. Stop trying to make the J curve happen, there is no safe minimum dose of alcohol.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Because I personally don't want to eat 80 grapes. Besides the sugar content of 80 grapes is not healthy. If the alcohol content bothers you just get the non alcoholic wine or even seek out blueberry wine in which you require less for some of the same benefits or don’t. No one is forcing you to drink it. maybe go to alanon and get some management over your emotions around alcohol.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Because I personally don’t want to eat 80 grapes. Besides the sugar content of 80 grapes is not healthy.

That's just wrong, sorry. Demonizing fruits is one of the most dangerous "health trends" on the face of the planet. Right up there with antivaxxers.

And, again you can eat leaves which don't have sugar and have lots of other great nutrients and fiber, while having less water volume.

No one is forcing you to drink it.

You just haven't encountered that kind of peer pressure yet.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

“ You just haven’t encountered that kind of peer pressure yet.”

You invited yourself here.

“Demonizing fruit”

Fuck off troll.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

@veganpizza69 @Smoogs Every time I see health news, it always seems so polarized.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago

There's nothing wrong with polarization. Some things are clear cut enough to remain clear cut.

Let me put it differently, how much poop do you want in your drinking water?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago (4 children)
[–] [email protected] -2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

The issue is a lot of teetotalers don't drink anything because of their existing health conditions, really bad obesity, hypertension, liver problems, etc. So those that don't drink at all are actually less healthy than the average population, and those that drink in moderation are obviously healthier than those who drink a lot. So the results look like moderate drinking is the most healthy but there's an (or a lot of) omitted variable bias.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

There's unsubstantiated and nonsensical assumptions in your comment starting with assuming that anyone who doesn't ingest alcohol does it to avoid exacerbating current health conditions, leading to those that drink moderately being healthier than those who don't drink. That's absurd.

I'll make an assumption of my own. A significant portion of your identify and social life is in "moderate" drinking and you're very keen to justify that as "healthy."

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago (2 children)

The latest few reports have linked even mild drinking to increased cancer risks.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

More specifically, the more recent studies analyze non-drinkers in two categories: those who just choose not to drink (generally healthier than even light drinkers), and those who don't drink because they have serious health conditions incompatible with drinking or people recovering from substance/alcohol abuse issues who (generally much less healthy than light drinkers). By separating those who don't drink versus those who can't drink, the studies reverse earlier findings that non-drinkers are less healthy than light drinkers.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

Woah, guess i'm out of date.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago

No, alcohol has always been toxic. just like tobacco. Might see the same restrictions on their ads in the future.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Many toxins have medicinal uses.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

Please demonstrate the relevancy of your comment by citing medicinal uses of ingesting the alcohol in alcoholic beverages.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I know you’re hair splitting but there are benefits to other elements in alcoholic beverages. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6099584/#:~:text=The%20tannin%20extracts%20improved%20cardiovascular,myocardial%20infarction%20and%20its%20prevention.

No need to get sour that occasionally recreational use crosses over into medical use. We don’t make these rules.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

I was talking about toxins in general in reaction to yout toxin comment. I think it's logical to research the possibility of alcohol having some beneficial effects, the world is not black and white.

When it comes to studies of health risks/benefits of alcohol, they unfortunately seem to suffer from the same shortcomings as other health studies: lots of important factors are often ignored, like the type of alcoholic beverage consumed, lifestyle connected to the type or amount of alcohol, previous history of alcohol use... I can, of course, give you a link to a study that finds benefits to moderate alcohol use (although they are far from recomending it). Here's one example from 2023

Personally, I think alcohol probably does more damage than benefit even in moderate dosing, but the truth is we still don't really know and we need much more in-depth studies to find out.