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[–] [email protected] 133 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

This is fake!

If it was real, the "Nevermind" button would be a "Maybe later" button instead...

[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

"Ask me again in 4 minutes"

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 weeks ago

My employer generally sucks, but one of the few things they do right is give us no-questions-asked PTO. Nobody cares if we take a day, it's part of our compensation.

[–] [email protected] 352 points 2 weeks ago (23 children)

I once had my employer perform a wellness check when I was having a mental health episode.

I was working remotely, but my mental health was in the toilet. I had a candid conversation with my supervisor where I told him I needed some time off because I had been feeling suicidal. He was an absolute bro, told me I was doing a good job, and that I earned some time off. He agreed that our conditions and the demands from management were absurd. He tells me to just take some time, and he'll clear the way with HR.

Well, I'm logging off my computer when I get a call from his boss. He's asking why I'm suddenly taking some time off. I tell him that I haven't been feeling well, but he keeps badgering me for a specific reason. I tell him that I'm very vulnerable and don't want to disclose a reason. That's between me and my doctor.

Well he keeps pressing and he tells me that, "sharing our vulnerabilities is what fosters trust." So I'm like fine, you really want to know, this job and your management style are making me suicidal.

Tone immediately shifts. He's going into full damage control cover-your-ass mode. He tells me that I should consider a different career if I'm not up to the task. I'm already having like the worst day of my life (so far) and I start to have a panic attack.

I tell him you know what, it's not his business and I'm going to call my doctor. Before I can get on the phone with my doctor, HR is calling me. They tell me they have to get hold of my emergency contact to make sure I'm not currently killing myself. I tell them my emergency contact is out of town (unrelated), so they say they have to call the police. I ask her not to, there's no risk to myself and things have been taken out of context. HR insists that it's company policy.

So while I'm hyperventilating because my boss pressed me for more details than I was comfortable sharing about my health, they sent a man with a gun to my house to check on me.

I understand that the company is protecting its liability or whatever. But I really felt that my rights had been violated somehow. The police are not suitable to intervene in a mental health episode. I had a new fear that I wouldn't be able to calm down when the police arrived and I'd end up shot or something.

TLDR - I know this post is fake, but companies really do feel like they own their employees. A wellness check from your employer is absolutely bullshit, but that won't stop them from trying.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago

Damn shitty company, hope your doing better.

[–] [email protected] 58 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Life gets a lot easier when you realize you don't have to answer questions that you don't want to, and "No" is a complete sentence. Not berating you, just letting you know that you didn't have to fall for their pressure tactics. Just keep not answering their questions until they give up.

I hope you're doing better these days.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah there's absolutely this feedback loop conditioning where nobody tells us this. And even if we know it, actually putting it into practice is such a mountain.

I'm vehemently anti-authoritarian, but damn if the "yield to authority" conditioning isn't shock-collaring me every time some douche in a suit wants to talk to me like I'm a child in trouble.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 weeks ago

Shit, I'd be calling a lawyer just to put a scare into that boss. Fucking douchebag.

"I'm not well today, I can't work, that's all you fucking need to know".

I've never had a boss even ask why. Frankly, he should know better...what he doesn't know he can't be liable for. Dumbass. Plus who has the time to worry about why? Does it change anything? No.

[–] [email protected] 122 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

I learned at a real young age to never tell anyone you feel suicidal unless you want to end up "involuntarily committed". Won't even bring up my depression unless I'm around a real friend.

[–] [email protected] 51 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Same.

Perfect solution to feeling like life has no worth except making profits for billionaires is obviously to forcibly lock them up in a hospital for a week and stick them with a $20k bill. That'll fix all that depression. /s

[–] [email protected] 27 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

It's not just a hospital too by the way. It was a murder short of feeling like I was in the asylum from outlast. Wailing, fighting, screaming and all other sorts of antisocial behavior, with the staff barely in control. At the least that was how it felt and being committed to that place beyond just preventing my possible suicide in the short term became a lasting traumatic experience.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Pretty sure you have clear grounds for a lawsuit on that one. I feel like you'd easily win compensation. (This is my guess. Obviously consult a lawyer ha)

For future reference though, just keep things high level and say it's a mental health concern. Or even just a general health issue. NEVER disclose that much information to an employer again.

But yeah, you should totally file a lawsuit.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children)

As someone who was very mentally fragile years ago, it's very easy to say "just don't engage, hang up the phone". But, when someone is verbally beating you down, it can slip your mind under the pressure.

OP said they were keeping it high-level but their over-boss kept pressing for specifics. I don't think they need a reference guide in this instance.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago

That's why you practice this stuff. It's the only way to make sure you won't slip under pressure.

It's what I had to do - just make it a natural response. "I'm not well, I won't be in". Just keep repeating it, regardless of how many times you're asked why.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Yea for sure. That's why I'm saying he/she should file a lawsuit. That's completely inappropriate

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 weeks ago

Holy fuck. That is beyond the pale, and I'm sorry you had to go through that. Chills thinking how wrong that could go.

[–] [email protected] 68 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

That is fucked up. I'm sorry you had to go through that. I hope you have found a better company to work for.

[–] [email protected] 59 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Thanks for the kind words, friend.

I know this is a comedy community and I'm not trying to be a bring down. But I also think it's important to talk about this kind of thing because, well, it's the kind of thing that corporate america would want to sweep under the rug. We need to normalize talking about mental health because it's yet another public health crisis that doesn't get enough attention.

I'm out of that dumpster fire now, but I'm still looking for my dream job.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago

Every large company I've worked for (since the mid 90's) never swept this stuff under the rug - quite the opposite, actually. I've seen people with all sorts of issues being accommodated.

Practically every team I've been on had at least one person with some kind of issue. We all knew, and adjusted. Once in a while you get an asshole teammate or manager...those quickly get a reputation and people avoid working with them.

Companies are painfully aware of risk.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago

im too sick to answer the door, come back another day

[–] [email protected] 51 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Nice joke until reality comes along: https://winfuture.de/news,145540.html

German article translates to:

The Tesla plant in Grünheide had to accept a record number of sick days, at least in August: Around 17 percent of the 12,000 employees were affected. At the beginning of September, the figure had fallen to around 11 percent, according to a report in the Handelsblatt newspaper. However, this is still comparatively high.

As a result, the plant management had begun to visit employees on sick leave at home and check on them. Head of HR Erik Demmler was surprised that he was sometimes met with an aggressive attitude, as he explained to Handelsblatt. It had happened that the door had simply been slammed in his face. There were even instances of people threatening to call the police.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

...and I am sure that these managers are going to have fun with a bombardment of lawsuits soon

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Yeah. That kind of behavior is super inappropriate and doesn't sound legal in Germany.

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[–] [email protected] 59 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

this is funny and reminds me that when you call in sick

just say you are calling in sick, don't give any reasons. Fuck them they don't need to know why

sometimes mental health days where you just chill and do shit you want to do is a perfectly good sick day

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

I've never had a boss EVER that pressed me for information on why I took off sick. That's completely inappropriate for them to ask.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Say you're shitting your brains out and the only thing coming to work will accomplish is a line for the bathroom and possibly more people shitting their brains out

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago

Hahahaha, I love it

[–] [email protected] 29 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Mental health is health. Take the sick day.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 weeks ago

Standing too close to occurring in the near future to qualify as funny.

[–] [email protected] 87 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

Please tell me this is a joke. I legitimately don't know if it is or isn't.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

At least I can tell you that it does not work in my country, where bosses and authorities cannot decide whether or not you are sick, only doctors can.

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[–] [email protected] 138 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

It is a joke, lol

This guy makes these terrible concepts for apps and stuff:

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 weeks ago

I mean, it's a joke, but many of his ideas are also libertarian wet dreams

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 weeks ago

Does Lemmy have a “hostile UI” community?

[–] [email protected] 37 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Not gona lie, I do like the speed limit leaderboard. Though I would see people trying to get the "high score" on something like this.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

“Go for the high score” is definitely a thought that crosses my mind every time I see one of those speed radar things the police sometimes put on the side of the road that flashes your speed at you. Kinda feel like those things actually encourage unsafe driving because of people like me with impulse control issues.

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

Definity a fake post. The small text says the cost of the check deducted from the employee's payroll.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

"cost deducted from employee's payroll" is the most realistic part, IMHO. I worry this joke will give someone ideas IRL. And that part is how they will sell it to CEOs.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

That part is currently illegal even in the US. So, baking it into an app would be a bad idea. Most of the time companies do illegal things, they try to be less explicit.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago

Currently.

Probably the only reason it's not written into Project 2025 is that they didn't think of it

[–] [email protected] 34 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

meanwhile useless incompetent middle managers across america are seeing the post and salivating while furiously looking for where to sign up for the service

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Tesla might get in some serious trouble in Germany for allegedly doing this to sick employees.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Yup, good eye - we're at least two election cycles away from that being plausible.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah not holding my breath that my assumptions on what's reasonable in American work culture will last forever.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 3 weeks ago

Honestly, based on the stories of what's happening in America. That's not a reliable indicator.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I could 100% say this is a possibility in america. ( Except the "we'll bring her to office" part lol )

[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

knock knock Pinkertons, open up

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago

They definitely won't bring you to your work.

They will happily do a magic thing where they turn your house into swiss cheese tho

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