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This is great! Can't wait for him to no be able to do anything due to gridlock from the NYC democratic party machine and have to capitulate constantly, and then the massive Centrist Lib media apparatus will blame every problem plaguing NYC (even if the problems predated his mayoralship) which will give the Dem establishment more ammunition to blame all their woes on the progressive wing of the party and sell disenfranchised urban poor voters on establishment Dems.

Really a big fucking win for us. Letting the city sink under and establishment Dem was totally not the smarter fucking move.

Also if anyone calls me a doomer for this take I'll be recording your usernames and asking you how you feel about this post in a year from now.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 days ago

I've seen good takes of yours and generally respect you, but I don't like this one. Too much doomerism leads to doing nothing and sitting out the moment.

This is great!

soviet-chad

Can't wait for him to no be able to do anything due to gridlock from the NYC democratic party machine

Of course. And then radicalize supporters against the establishment more. "You elected me to get these things done, but these corrupt neoliberal ghouls defy the will of the masses!" Or if he won't, then others can.

then the massive Centrist Lib media apparatus will blame every problem plaguing NYC (even if the problems predated his mayoralship) which will give the Dem establishment more ammunition to blame all their woes on the progressive wing of the party and sell disenfranchised urban poor voters on establishment Dems.

They do this anyway! No matter what progressives do the Dem establishment will always punch left. They do not care about truth.

We may as well take the symbolic win and do something with it.

Letting the city sink under and establishment Dem was totally not the smarter fucking move.

Everything is going to get worse whether we fight or not. The important thing is to let people see socialists, even "democratic" socialists, fighting for them. You don't win friends and allies by standing by and not trying to help them. You do it by sticking your neck out for them. Waiting for the "perfect" moment to start fighting for the masses means it'll never happen.

Also if anyone calls me a doomer for this take I'll be recording your usernames and asking you how you feel about this post in a year from now

That's fair.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 days ago

I actually fucking hate you hardline communists man, almost as much as liberals

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

loser, know-nothing take that you should be ashamed of

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 days ago

I'm primarily interested in, assuming he wins the office, what happens with the NYPD. the mayor is the cop boss and I expect a lot of furious pig noises would start on day 1.

the negotiated contracts and protections for cops are strong, the institution is a potent political force on its own, but he can enormously fuck with its leadership at will and apply real pressure to those opportunistic careerists. that kind of shit has an impact, the way trump has traumatized the entire civil service. and the trump admin just took a blind wrecking ball to it. someone astute and motivated with a popular mandate could do much more.

as much as it won't be some miraculous reform of the NYPD, it could have real impacts and a legacy. if it couldn't, the hogs wouldn't already be panicking.

personally, I think the pigs, being pigs, will immediately overplay their heaviest hand and give cover for a "reform" project. like goddamn, how many commuting bystanders gotta get clipped by the cops over a random fare jump before some real consequences happen?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 days ago

Eh just take the symbolic win and then use his inevitable inability / unwillingness to get anything meaningful done as an opportunity to radicalize even more people emilie-shrug

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 days ago

he should immediately harness the full arsenal of the NYPD and invade Israel due to humanitarian concerns

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 days ago

this time the young progressive democrat will carry out the will of the people! lenin-dont-laugh

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 days ago

why bother dooming

it's a pleasant surprise

let it be

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 days ago

Every mayor has to face the fascist cops and their threats. Remember the NYPD union threatening and doxing Bill DeBlasio's daughter.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 days ago

Zorhan should drop a nuke on New York so that the population realizes the virtues of communism.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Even if he disappoints it is something to work with. Just like how Sanders caused an uptick through mobilizing socdems and then disappointed them, helping them radicalize.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 days ago (1 children)

if bernie completely stayed out of the last two presidential elections we probably don't even get this one.

fuck him anyway but normalizing socialism is good

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 days ago (1 children)

It was the right's demonizing of 'socialism' when I was a kid and then seeing 'socialists' like Bernie become popular that led me to look into wtf socialism even was, and now I'm here comrade-raccoon There is essentially no proper civic or political education for kids in the US, this is good for starting them on the path to real leftism.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

I was taught about socialism in school, and it honestly seemed very reasonable to me, especially when contrasted with capitalism.

What i wasnt taught was about countries successfully implementing socialism (the USSR was apparently deviating from socialism) and so I just thought it was yet to ever work. Also I was taught the Nazis were some variant of socialism.

Then you get older and start becoming anti-socialist because "my stonks" or "the free market provides the best solution for all". I think thats because anything socialist introduced into a capitalist society highlights the contradictions of capitalism. Then you need to come to the understanding that socialist reforms dont work, and the only way socialism can work is a complete transformation of society.

As Lenin (or I think Marx) states, you need to smash the old state and create a new one, the working class cannot simply lay hold of the state machinery to use it for its own advancement

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 days ago

Zohran for president.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 days ago (1 children)

You'll probably be right in at least like- half of that I think.

But you gotta admit it's at least worth a laugh to watch the fallout, and it feels good to watch Colbert do some turbo zionist racism shit just to have Cuomo get endorsed by Bill Clinton and eat shit anyways. It's nice seeing that whole ideology of "DO YOU CONDIMENT HUMMUS?!?!" fail in practice as people get more sick of it.

In fact: the truth that this might not be significant YET it still is causing a panic makes it funnier to watch to me. Especially seeing zionists crawl out of their holes to bawk and cry after two weeks of the Iron Dome shittin its pants.

Imbibe in the slop a touch, let thine mind be awash in a giggle or two. Plenty of time to feel bleak later.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 days ago

Imbibe in the slop a touch, let thine mind be awash in a giggle or two. Plenty of time to feel bleak later.

Poetic

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 days ago

why can't you be happy that new yorkers will have a hot mayor

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 days ago

Do i think that this is going to matter when it comes to the long term trajectory of America? No. Do i think he will manage to do all the things he claims? No. I don't even vote in elections(I do fill out ballots but usually write in "Fuck America" or vote PSL ig) and don't pay attention to them much. But if this means the NYPD will murder like 5% less innocent black people for a few years then i see that as a win atleast.

Now I'm still on the fence about if even that much will happen tbh. A lot of these people run as like dem-soc types and end up just being typical libs with better marketing (AOC/Bernie Sanders). So we'll see i guess.

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