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[–] [email protected] 91 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The whole thing reminds me of Cersei skipping her trial at the temple. Trump, and the RNC, are willing to lose all of the downstream races as long as Trump wins because they just plan to kill all the democrats as soon as he takes over the armed forces. It's terrifying.

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[–] [email protected] 72 points 9 months ago (1 children)

They already had their last election, there is no more GOP only MAGA and enemies of MAGA.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 9 months ago

since then, they've been eyeing the Sudentenland.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

A lot of groups are acting like there isn't going to be any consequences, like this is a winner-takes-all time.

I think they know big changes are coming. Once the climate shitshow really hits (very soon!) they're gone so their planning horizon has shortened.

[–] [email protected] 66 points 9 months ago (2 children)

The article focuses on Trump and his legal problems and his desperation, but the fact that the Boomers are going to start dying en masse over the next decade (the oldest ones are now 78) is another factor. Their demographic is getting old as shit. That's why they are so desperate as a whole.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/319068/party-identification-in-the-united-states-by-generation/

They are going full blown fascist because it's the only way they're going to be able to retain power in the future.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 9 months ago

A huge number, and a disproportionate number at that, of boomers died during covid. We will be feeling that for the next ten years at least.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 9 months ago (9 children)

According to that chart GenX is still a problem and they'll be around for a while. The thing that gets me worried is the huge number of "Independents" in Millennials and GenZ. How many of those are Liberal Independents and how many of those are Conservative Independents? I wish there was a followup question whenever people where given the option of Independent.

[–] [email protected] 45 points 9 months ago (13 children)

GenX and I'd sooner vote for someone with 81 years behind him than 91 charges ahead of him.

Also: fuck every last garbage person conservative, climate change is fucking real, trans rights are human rights, black lives matter, universal healthcare is a right and property is not a fucking investment.

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[–] [email protected] -2 points 9 months ago

It'll probably happen with millennials and younger too. It's true we got fucked over, but for some people it's surprisingly easy "fuck you I got mine" as we age, and there will always be grifters who take advantage of that.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago

I've seen other polls that suggest that Gen X is basically a 50/50 split, which means they kind of cancel each other out. But right wing Gen X'ers are basically Boomer-lites so these annoying conspiracy addled people will be with us for the long haul.

I'm not sure how the independents split in the younger generations, but even if its close to 50/50 that's still a huge boost for the Dems as the Boomers die off.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 9 months ago (5 children)

GenX is still a problem

Don't I know it. The kids I went to school with are saying the stupidest things -- and we took the same classes!! I can't explain it.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 9 months ago (2 children)

And millenials will be in 15 years, then genZ in another 15... As generations get older, they tend to shift to the right.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Delayed onset mental deterioration caused by a decade or two of exposure to leaded gasoline.

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[–] [email protected] -1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

We can only hope. ‘Bout time we smelt the rotting carcasses on either side of the room

[–] [email protected] 42 points 9 months ago

For the folks who’d like to read the article before commenting on it. Here is the archive link.

https://archive.is/62Tz8

[–] [email protected] 36 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Trump is a parasite, he has eaten away the Republican party and destroyed it and himself in the process. Personally, I think this is the greatest thing that could happen for this country and international democracy as a whole. Hopefully the Democrats become the next right wing party (they already are right wing) so we can see the emergence of a proper left wing party (and by left I mean Socialism).

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago

This is my take on it as well. Let's hope we aren't wrong!

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[–] [email protected] 205 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

One way or another, it might be.

If Trump wins, it'll likely be the last election we ever have. Dictator on day one and all...

If he doesn't win, he will have drained the party and it's donors of all of their cash.

He already gets the lions share of it and dumps it into a legal black hole, and now Lara plans to divert what little funding was leftover for the local and congressional races to Trump too.
They're literally all in on him, so can they recover in 2 years for the midterms if he cleans them out?
If they have no cash for the midterms and we get a blue wave, what happens to their gerrymandered districts?
This election might be it for them.

"if we nominate Trump, we will get destroyed... and we will deserve it"
— Lindsey Graham
May 3rd 2016

[–] [email protected] 70 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I mostly agree but billionaires will still be able to write checks after the election. The whole nasty enterprise will just reboot itself.

[–] [email protected] 42 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Sure doesn't help that the billionaires win no matter the outcome.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

Gods willing

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago

I always find it hilarious that Lara considers herself important in any capacity

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 9 months ago

If they don’t win, it will be—for them. If they do win, no one will need to campaign again.

[–] [email protected] 98 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Because it is. There will be no more campaigns and elections after 2024 if the orange wins. It’s not just him but the entire GOP machinery is waiting in the wings armed and ready to bring on fascism as soon as their guy gets in the office and controls the military.

“Stand down and stand by” that was his command to the GOP militia. They are standing by.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 9 months ago (1 children)

“Stand back and stand by.”*

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago

My bad. You’re right.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago

Let’s hope

[–] [email protected] 32 points 9 months ago

By 'her father-in-law's reelection,' they mean his legal bills. Please drain the war chest!

[–] [email protected] 222 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Well, if they get the presidency, it could very well be. If they lose, let's fucking hope so.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago

The rich people in the center are waking up. It will not be good for the extremes.

[–] [email protected] 75 points 9 months ago (6 children)

God, I hope they lose and the Democrats move much further left, and the Republicans end up where Democrats are now.

Would be a huge improvement.

[–] [email protected] 60 points 9 months ago (7 children)

I hope the Republicans are laughed out of relevance and the Dems split into two sane parties.

Same end result.

I'd love to vote based on how socialist I think we could be instead of voting based on how tyrannical I think we should be.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 9 months ago

Agreed. That's my hope too. Crush Republicans in November so they're no longer a player, and then have a moderate party and a progressive party.

We'll all get together on weekends to laugh at the tiny, impotent fascist party that remains, just to remind ourselves they're the enemy that needs to be kept in check. No German antics where moderates and progressives play off the fascists to get one over the other.

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I hope he loses, but then expect Dems to still disappoint.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

If the GOP scatters to the wind we can maybe start taking out the trash in the DNC. Here's to hoping.

Not really my party, tho.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

They all face the guillotine but there's definitely an order.

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