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If you think that 210€ is full price for a pc then you require some research assistance.
Stop purchasing from Amazon
It's Amazon. Of course it's a scam. I always tell elderly people it's a criminal enterprise scamming old people when they ask about it.
Could you explain why you consider these overpriced/scam? If those use new parts and come with warranty, at least the top one, seems fine. Can you do a breakdown of what it should cost?
My Windows PC has i5-6500 in it and I definitely don't consider it e-waste.
I call it ewaste because it is coming from that. Banks and corporations change computers every 3-5 years because accounting love to lease rather to buy
Those computers go to ewaste centers, then some not honest sellers take the components (that usually were left on 24/7 because in offices nobody bothers to turn off computers) and put them in brand new cases
That's why is a scam, selling old stuff that came from an ewaste center as brand new
But "e-waste" means something so outadet that it's useless. Or unrepairable. Those computers are perfectly fine for 80% of users.
And are they explicitly saying that these are new? While you know for sure it's heavily used equipment?
So keeping it from being actual ewaste it's now going to be used by someone... That seems like a good thing.
The only downside I see is that it isn't disclosed
It can't be legitimate because licences for the bundled software cost more than the machines are being sold for. Also, the hardware included isn't officially Windows 11 compatible, so selling it with Windows 11 installed is misleading the customer into thinking they're buying something much more recent than they really are. For a decent number of people buying these, they're likely to own something just as new already, and could get a free upgrade to Windows 11 by doing the same configuration tweaks as the sellers did.
Do you mean you wouldn't consider it a scam if it has W10 preinstalled instead? How much is MS Office anyway? I know there are $5 W11 keys all over the place.
The only time a tried to buy a laptop from Amazon it was advertised as 16Gb of RAM. What was delivered was 8G with an 8GB SD card taped to the box and Amazon refused to give me an actual refund. So i just assume any computer you buy on Amazon is fraudulent now
That seems like an entirely different problem from the one being discussed.
I got the one on the top (minus storage and ram) from a local university surplus store for $30 a few years ago. Lenovo brand but same form factor.
Switch to Linux and keep using your current computer. Tell Microsoft to pound sand.
I dont think the people buying these even know what linux is.
Very possible.
lol, the one on top is the same i bought in 2016, crazy still on the market. I still have the CPU, replaced motherboard, case, and other goodies over the years
Meanwhile I am waiting to buy a good "unsupported by Windows 11" PC cheap this October.
Same. Should be rock bottom prices.
the lenghts people will go because they refuse to consider the penguin.
It's not actually eWaste you can buy a TPM chip for it, or ya know Linux.
I've formatted and installed W11 on dozens of computers and never had it fail once. My gaming rig is an Optiplex from 2014, runs 11 just fine.
Windows 11 doesn't actually need the tpm. They just check: "oh it's Intel 6th gen, it's trash from the last decade, sorry incompatible ewaste, buy a new one"
Intel 6th gen + tpm chip = still "incompatible"
Their marketing told us the lie "it needs tpm and secure boot" but they actually check if it has introduced to the market after 2018 or not
In those units the scammer patched the install image to install without the check. Who buys this will get a surprise when in the next months the next update comes out and refuse to install (25h1?)