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[–] [email protected] 41 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

It's remarkable, the questions that aren't from bots are completely indistinguishable.
It's all low quality engagement bait, and all these questions were on the front page of askreddit a hundred times with slight variations.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (6 children)

They're indistinguishable because they're copied from top-voted posts that are a few years old (title, text, and image if applicable). It's guaranteed to produce a post that fits the community and gets a lot of engagement, so it's a cheap and effective way to mature a bot account. Once you start looking for it, it's everywhere, and Reddit admins don't care.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 3 weeks ago

Askreddit was a scummy Karma farm already. This still sucks, though.

[–] [email protected] 144 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

~~Ask~~Reddit is over run by bots.

FTFY

[–] [email protected] 58 points 3 weeks ago (17 children)

It's still okay for niche communities, and that's probably why people still go there

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[–] [email protected] 43 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I look forward to meeting my undeleted zombie Reddit account one day. I'm picturing it like Shaun and Ed at the end of Shaun of the Dead.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 weeks ago (14 children)

Why isn’t lemmy taken over with bots yet? Is it just a matter of time?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 weeks ago

Just got a random message from a new account I suspect of being a bot or scammer.

But lemmy is still small enough, and has mods/admins that are less jaded and defeated than the bigger platforms, that there is a bigger pushback on the scams.

Every site has a critical mass at which scammers will be more motivated than the moderators. Reddit got too big, then shit all over the experienced mods. Double whammy.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

We have a bot problem, but we also have admins/ mods that don't want to bloat their numbers with bots (mostly). The fediverse helps us hold each other accountable, and if any community is full of bots, you defedirate them. I don't mind the auto posters that seed content. I like the OSRS update bot, etc...

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 weeks ago

Indeed. It’s a problem for any online platform, but the hope is that it’s a self-limiting problem here because of the natural segmentation of the network and given than admins aren’t trying to sell advertisement views.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 weeks ago

Oh fuck I blew my cover

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

My guess is we're still too small and niche to be a tempting target.

I think the federated nature of lemmy will make it an easy target when it does come along though.

Disclaimer: I don't really know what I'm talking about.

Edit: Spelling

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

There are bots and astroturfers on Lemmy now to be clear, just not nearly to the point of the disaster that is R-town. That said, it's not nearly as bad. The point i wanted to make is that federation is the one thing protecting Lemmy from corporate bot/shill takeover. The way Lemmy will be reddit'd/digg'd would be if centralization of servers became high enough that corpo corrupted ones become the defacto servers, who'd cut federation with the smaller privately-owned instances we currently enjoy.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

There's currently (*comparatively) no money to be made with bots given Lemmy's comparatively small size, I'd wager. Bots on Reddit are used to advertise and to push companies' agendas. Lemmy's too small for that

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

There is definitely money to be made. Whether it is shilling for a product or even attempting to inflate market share in the hopes of converting said market share into either donations or outright selling to investors.

Yeah, I don't think they have figured out how to properly manipulate lemmy yet (I have seen a shocking amount of facebook "why don't these kinds of posts go viral" levels of nonsense, for example). But bots are cheap and to pretend that there is not an active effort to figure out how to manipulate us is naivety, at best.

Maybe it is just that I am an old. I watched reddit fall. Hell, I watched fucking gamefaqs "fall". Not to mention usenet and the rest. Because the reality is that where there are people, there is money. And modern day advertisement techniques (whether it is AI bots or just people in a warehouse in the global south) are increasingly cheap.

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[–] [email protected] 45 points 3 weeks ago

Everyone on lemmy is a bot except you.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago

Because there's no value in it at the moment. Reddit accounts sell for quite a bit of money as they can be used for marketing or propaganda.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 weeks ago

How do you know I'm not a bot? :)

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago

Oh no!

Anyway.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 weeks ago

can i get more schadenfreude on this 🍿. its delicious

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