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How to say Marx was right without saying "Marx was right".

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago

Can't kill earth can only just piss her off, hopefully I'll be useful enough to the overlords of Cascadia Dome #6 to get a really nice condo overlooking a nice park.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Just hope that the next intelligent species will speedrun capitalism

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

With the Sun it's hard to really believe there's enough time left in the habitable zone Earth era left.

*for that to happen again.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

Nah, for it's left how much? 4-5 billion years, mass extinctions happen like every 100 million years and after each one there's nonzero probability of intelligent life occurring.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 days ago (1 children)

1950's oil execs funded studies that show how they will kill the planet if they don't stop, transition to something else, hell they had enough fore warning they could have R&D'd solar and monopolize the tech, but NO! They needed to make faster money faster and stopping yourself from killing the human race isn't THAT important, and they knew they'd be dead by now.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago

They might have been able to monopolize SOME of the tech, but they knew they could never own access to the sun. But yeah, they knew that they were incinerating us for decades. Which makes it premeditated murder in my books.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Thanks to big corporations effectively owning governments and big politicians the world over, things aren't bound to get better anytime soon, because "the economy". Fuck that shit

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

And thank the Saudis too. Guess where the previous conference on phasing out fossil fuel, but agreed to slow down the process, was held.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 days ago (1 children)

All that's left is to make the rich suffer.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 4 days ago

“The Earth is not dying, it is being killed, and those who are killing it have names and addresses.”

~Utah Phillips

Inb4 some pedant quibbles that "the planet itself is not dying." Yeah, but we and our fellow creatures are. It should be understood that is what Mr. Phillips meant.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago

Futurama, Crimes of the hot episode was a prophecy

[–] [email protected] 24 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Has been for ages. It's now question of how bad, and we are still making it worse.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

And we're gonna increasingly train more AI, mine more crypto, open more coal mines, industrially kill more animals, fight more wars.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 4 days ago (3 children)

I’m sick of this WE, im not a billionaire pumping more Co2 per day with my yacht fleet than a town of people do in their life. I’m sick of being blamed for this shit, when all my conservation is undone in a minute by a corporation. I refuse to take equal blame any longer

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago

A lot of people in western countries are living unsustainable lifestyles. Yes we need to target the billionaires too, but that alone won't solve it. Also stop buying their shit. Actually, just stop buying shit in the first place as that is a large part of the problem.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

Well, one way in which we can help fight against climate change is by not eating meat or dairy products.

For anyone curious about the subject, there's some good science backing that up, though the links I'm providing are lazy DDG searches, so if anyone wants to do it, they can probably find better sources out there with more information.

The average cow can produce somewhere between 100-500 litres of methane a day, which is 23 times more powerful as a greenhouse gas than carbon dioxide.

Alfalfa and other grass hays is a crop that used a crazy amount of water, and it's grown primarily to feed cows.

Going vegan, or at least mostly vegan, is the way to go. Can start with going vegetarian and at least swapping out meat sources. Alternative vegan protein sources

With that being said, I do not practice what I preach. I should, though.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

The actual problem is democratic oligarchism/zionism/neocon warmongering/US colonialism. Protecting establishment is easily supported when higher priorities than human sustainability can be manufactured. The more miserable you are made, the less you care about "higher level Maslow hierarchy needs" at political level.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

The best way to reduce all the excess manufacturing for livestock is by not buying it their products. If it's all about ROI for them, give them a reason to reduce their manufacturing with your purchasing power.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago

The best way to reduce all the excess manufacturing for livestock is by not buying it their products.

has that ever worked?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Again though, I do all these things and it doesn’t matter cause my entire life’s output of CO2 is being put out by one guy in an hour. I’m turning off lights and corporate buildings are running all the lights and AC 24/7

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago

If the majority of people did, it actually would make a massive difference. This whole "but billionaires" and "but corporations" is just being used as an excuse to do absolutely nothing by far too many people.

All of those people doing nothing are why we are in this mess.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Good point. I try my best, but even if like 90 % of the population tried harder, it would barely offset the billionaire companies killing our planet.

They're the problem, always has been that way.

I think it's time to stop them.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

This simply isn’t correct. While the billionaires yacht fleet and jet setting make them have insane carbon footprints individually, it is their business practices that actually register in terms of contributing significant chunks of the carbon budget for humanity. Bezo’s jets and yachts pale in comparison to Amazons delivery fleet and manufacturing all that junk. It’s counterproductive to focus on their personal emissions, when it’s the interaction of their businesses, government, and consumers that are burning the earth. We have 2 levers on that problem.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago

You're right. I was thinking more about the individuals responsible capture and refining of fossil fuels.

But the pretty ubiquitous use of Amazon delivery does greatly contribute a lot. Didn't really think about it in that aspect. Thanks for pointing that out.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 days ago (2 children)

The best we can do for the planet is toss a few billionaires into a volcano as a sacrifice to earth

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago
[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago

Now that's some carbon sequestration

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Let climate change end humanity, we fucking deserve it

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 days ago (1 children)

The problem is humanity is taking most of the other species in the world with it. Just the methane/permafrost feedback loop out of dozens of feedback loops will usher in the level of warming and ensuing extinctions experienced during the Permian/Triassic die off.

The ruling elite are incinerating all of us for profit, and they don't give a shit.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 days ago

It'll just be another chapter in Earth's history. We're not the first life form to have caused an extinction event due to radically changing Earth's atmosphere.

What it would prove to us, however, is that; despite our massive ego, we (humanity) are no better than, or more above the laws of nature than, those first single-celled organisms that radically changed Earth's atmosphere to one of oxygen. Yet monumentally less significant in our footprint.

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