They should put in the language that the ballot will say. Instead it's a background fluff piece.
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its times like this, that my very basic knowledge of the US governmental system and it's structure make me happy.
This is bad, but it's inherently hard to fradulate and election across 50 states with 50 independent voting systems. The founding fathers, as cross dressing as they might have been, were certainly cooking when they wrote that shit.
Now if only we could get supreme court reform.
Skibidi Ohio
Fuckwits all of them
People who would be fooled by this don't read. Just make a political ad campaign telling them which way to vote and why.
Should have gone with multi-member proportional districts using something like Sequential Proportional Approval Voting so that gerrymandering would be near-impossible. Five members is generally considered the minimum needed to make gerrymandering pointless to even attempt.
I don't understand how SPAV fixes gerrymandering in this case. It seems like the re-weighting operation is meant for a pool of identical ballots. When you have district-level elections that differ between ballots, how is this meant to work?
Edit: Ooooh you meant for selecting the redistricting committee, not for running the elections. Gotcha, makes sense now.
Nope. I meant for running elections. You need multiple winners in the same election for SPAV to be different from just straight Approval (vote for one or more, most votes wins). With my suggestion of 5 members per district, the candidates all run for legislator of the district, and then 5 winners are chosen using SPAV. Any semi-proportional method will work, but SPAV is arguably the way to go for a whole pile of reasons.
Anyway, so if you're a voter in that district, you will have 5 representatives you can go talk to. With a 2-party system, usually 2 or 3 of them will be from your party. The legislature as a whole would be made up of some number of these districts, each with 5 officials. They all participate in the legislature like normal, there's no difference between the 1st awarded seat or the last.
The reason you do this is because the people in each district will be much much more likely to have at least 1 legislator that actually represents them and their district. The legislature as a whole will also approximate the voting population as a whole in terms of votes per party vs seats per party. It makes it functionally impossible to gerrymander because if you try cracking and packing you'll really just be moving around who wins the last couple seats in any given district, but you'll have a hard time actually changing the overall makeup of the legislature.
Okay, that makes a lot of sense. Thanks for explaining it further. It does sound like a very nice system.
Should have gone with multi-member proportional districts using something like Sequential Proportional Approval Voting so that gerrymandering would be near-impossible. Five members is generally considered the minimum needed to make gerrymandering pointless to even attempt.
I opened the article. I didn't read it. I think I might need another break from being online. It's a difficult time to do that, as we're about to travel to visit family. Being in airports, catching connecting flights, taking rideshares to hotels… without being online? I know we used to do this with books and music. I might be facing a trial from hell.
I might be facing a trial from hell.
it really does annoy me how online everything is, i just want to exist in the woods away from people, not causing issues. And all i get in return is security breach after security breach leaking my personal information that nobody needs to have anyway.
First boneless wings can have bones now this? Ohio is not ok.
Ohio is not OK. Oklahoma is OK. Ohio is OH.
... Oh.
That's what I said. They aren't ok
Ohio has never been ok
Ohio is skibidi.
No cap.
Bogus.
Square.
Like, I don’t even know what to do. My state clearly is not a democracy
~~How about you start educating people on THIS issue? Post comments, link to easy to understand articles/explanations, and let people in your area or nearby know about this.~~
~~If the answer is no one cares, well then god speed. Do your best to move?~~
@[email protected] commented and said this already.
Three things you can do without spending any money:
Vote in every election.
Talk to your family and friends and coworkers about politics. Make it OK to share your thoughts on current events, and challenge the people around you when their ideas are problematic. Most of all, encourage everyone to vote.
Volunteer. Support a campaign by phone banking or writing postcards or working at the polls or driving voters who wouldn't otherwise have access to the polls.
I do vote every election and I guess I should clarify: Ohio is a direct democracy with an unaccountable legislature and a brain drain spiral. It’s how we have marijuana, abortion, multiple anti gerrymandering laws that have been ignored by the legislature, all sorts of stupid unpopular laws, and a tendency towards moderate Republican governors.
Talk to your family and friends and coworkers about politics. Make it OK to share your thoughts on current events, and challenge the people around you when their ideas are problematic. Most of all, encourage everyone to vote.
talk to them about bi partisan issues btw. Shit like voter reform, everybody wants more representation, shit like voter security (the thing in georgia) anything that you can find common ground on you should be talking about.
And remember, it's important to respect people who do things that are admirable. As much of a cunt as mike pence may be, the dude stopped jan 6th single handedly, and i will never be able to thank him enough for that.
If any of this sound overwhelming it's because time is money. Find a community that can help you have more quality time that doesn't involve spending money: D&D, nonthiestic church, yoga at the library, or crafting popup at the maker space. It's an investment in your own energetic capacity and will make all of the parent's ideas for political involvement more achievable.
hell or find a local canvassing group or something like that, they most likely need people on the ground, either at events or door knocking. If you're worried about it being overwhelming these things are great options. You might even be able to coordinate if that's up your sleeve but that's probably more overwhelming lol.
local political groups are ironically pretty chill.
That is truly how you begin to bridge idealogical disconnect between meats.
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