The next time they bitch and moan about “the decline of the birth rate”, just show this to them and say nothing.
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Not American, or really knowledgeable about it but from the outside, I think this looks like ordinary politicking.
IVF is a proxy war for abortion. Dems want the talking point that abortion bans hurt/block IVF. Republicans/Trump want to remove that talking point by saying they love IVF "we want more babies right?" and will support laws to protect it as a separate and unrelated issue to abortion.
Dems put forward a bill that not only protects it but makes insurance companies pay for it. Trump is fine with that because it benefits him but Republicans in Congress get big money from insurance lobbyists and so they can't vote for it. They also have fears that they'll piss off their homophobic supporters by making them pay for something the gays might use (insurance costs will go up to help someone who isn't me!").
Republicans put forward another bill that protects IVF without hurting their insurance company buddies but the Dems block it. Republicans then have to vote against the IVF bill and the Dems can now say "see! They really don't care about reproductive rights at all!"
Feels a bit like nobody involved actually cares about IVF at all and just wants votes and lobbyist money.
In case this take comes across too centrist: Republicans and Trump are really quite shit.
WTF Corey Booker? It wouldn't have mattered but now he's on record as "not caring."
Unless he has a good reason. A very good one
lol. Idiots. Bring on President Harris.
I thought the orange man was supposed to be a leader in fertilization.
Forced fertilization only
Of course they do they don't care anything for IVF them frauds.
I was 100% expecting them to do this, but I am nonetheless happy that the Nationalist Christians are engaging in this level of political self-sabotage.
When people show you who they are, believe them.
Republicans on Tuesday blocked a bill that would have created a right to access in vitro fertilization (IVF) treatments and mandated that insurance plans cover the practice, deriding the vote as a political ploy.
Senators voted against advancing the bill, 51-44, marking the second time Democrats have sought to put Republicans on the record on the contentious issue. Sixty votes were needed to open debate on the measure.
Sens. Susan Collins (R-Maine) and Lisa Murkowski (R-Alaska) voted with every Democrat and independent.
Sens. Cory Booker (D-N.J.), Joe Manchin (I-W.Va.), Thom Tillis (R-N.C.) and Mike Rounds (R-S.D.) did not vote.
GOP senators derided the Democratic legislation, authored by Sen. Tammy Duckworth (D-Ill.), as nothing more than a show vote, accusing Democrats of misrepresenting Republicans’ views on IVF.
Ahead of the vote, Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) tried to pass via voice vote a competing bill he and Sen. Katie Britt (R-Ala.) introduced earlier this year that would withhold Medicaid funding from states that ban IVF, but it was blocked by Democrats.
Fuck anyone who complains about the “Democrats not getting anything done” when these literal obstructionist GOP politicians have blocked any progress. Absolutely need a complete Blue wave for President, House, and Senate to get actual progress done.
that would withhold Medicaid funding from states that ban IVF, but it was blocked by Democrats.
Withholding Medicaid funding doesn't seem like a great idea. But on the whole being against banning IVF seems like a good idea. Am I missing something?
Look at Republican run states and compare to demographics. You might see a correlation.
that would withhold Medicaid funding from states that ban IVF, but it was blocked by Democrats.
Withholding Medicaid funding doesn’t seem like a great idea. But on the whole being against banning IVF seems like a good idea. Am I missing something?
Republicans don't want to secure IVF and don't want to pay for Medicaid. GOP state's would happily block IVF to get Medicaid defunded.
I'm aware of their issues with reproduction e rights. But that's not what that statement says.
But that’s not what that statement says.
I read the OP again. I read your statement again. I'm not seeing a different meaning than the one I came away with and commented on originally.
What are you saying the statement says that my comments contradict?
The statement said withhold Medicaid for states banning IVF. Aka if you ban IVF, the bill would punish the state by withholding Medicaid. Seems to be the opposite of what Republicans want with IVF.
The statement said withhold Medicaid for states banning IVF. Aka if you ban IVF, the bill would punish the state by withholding Medicaid. Seems to be the opposite of what Republicans want with IVF.
I see your confusion: (many) Republicans want to ban IVF.
Look at the title of this post we're in. "Republicans block Senate Democrats’ IVF bill". That bill protects IVF, and the republicans shot it down.
they want to turn their states into shitholes, and a few have succeeded in that. I'm all for the brain drain that'll happen. especially if those funds got diverted to blue states.
GOP senators derided the Democratic legislation, authored by Sen. Tammy Duckworth (D-Ill.), as nothing more than a show vote
...and so the GOP decided to show their disdain for reproductive rights.