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[–] [email protected] 20 points 6 months ago (6 children)

I just moved from an apartment to a house.

If the apartment had the same floor space and the city actually accommodated my hobbies (I need a large garage to work on cars and finish fixing a boat) then I would’ve gladly stayed.

However. Apartments above 60m² are rare and expensive, and all garages/industrial sites are unfavorable because you can put another bloc or supermarket in there. The cities became living hubs for corporate workers whose entire lives can be crammed into a 40 meter apartment and their only entertainment is a depression rectangle or a gaming console.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago

When we lived in an apartment someone set off the fire alarm several times a week, sometimes at 3am which is a shitty way and time to awaken. Never want to live in one again

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago

Can we get a version with all treehouses?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago

Now, do the houses in the same density. I'm talking, wall-to-wall, stacked on top of one another in a brick filled with shingles, confusion, and misery, thanks to the lack of any connecting hallways, stairwells, or elevators. /j

[–] [email protected] -1 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Unironically houses. If you go for the apartment, The remaining land will still be filled up, just with apartments instead of houses, and you'll have to deal with 50x more people then you would have with house model.

One of the main benefits of using houses instead of apartments is avoiding population density.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

Nah you can still have high population density in businesses/venues whether people are coming from houses or apartments. Only difference is whether they have to drive 20 minutes through suburbia to get there. It doesnt feel any less dense when 90% of the land has zero points of interest besides houses so you simply drive past all of this nearly empty space to get anywhere.

If you don't care about going anywhere and just want to sit in your backyard admiring the grass most days, then sure, you do you.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

There's only so much population. Afaik availability of housing isn't particularly a limiting factor for population growth, either, so I don't think this is true. If we all moved into apartments then there would be less land used, no question.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Left, 100%. I don't share walls with randos.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

Yeah, exactly!

What if you both touch the wall at the same time and make inappropriate contact? That'd be unchristian!

[–] [email protected] 43 points 6 months ago (3 children)

in both scenarios developers eventually buy up the entire island and fill it with either

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

The picture on the left could be even worse. There are areas where people move in and tear all the greenery out of the garden and then either cover everything with paving stones or gravel. Everything around the house! Then there's also an ugly metal fence or plastic elements in the garden, sometimes you can see fake plants.

Some humans are so stupid...

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

A bit nuanced in drought-prone places, though


stone is, well, drought-friendly, but a typical lawn is most certainly not. Best would maybe be drought-resistant native plants...

[–] [email protected] 17 points 6 months ago

If the apartments are no shoe boxes and have lavishly big (garden) balconies I'm all in. The space should be around 100-120 qm each with flexible drywall placement for individual footprints.

I love living in a walkable city but I envy a friend of mine a little bit, who exits his apartment into a market center with cafes, shops, supermarkets, barber, doctors etc.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 months ago (14 children)

A lot of people in this thread are mistaking the map for the territory. Like yes, obviously neither the development on the right, or the left would actually happen in real life, because why are these people even on the island? What do they eat? What do they drink? Where do they work? The sole statement of the graphic is that dense developments have a reduced impact on nature compared to sparse developments. Discussing the logistics would exceed what can be conveyed by such a format.

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