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[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

Was Will ever a Trump supporter? Somehow I thought he was smarter than that, but I haven't read an essay of his in decades.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

This is starting to get scary.

Why are all these warhawks endorsing Harris?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

Because think of how Trump is now. Now add two, three, or four more years to his obvious decline.

Even if he doesn't end democracy, they're afraid he could literally end the Republican party.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 months ago

George Will can eat shit.

[–] [email protected] 60 points 4 months ago (3 children)

I’m going to keep pointing this out until it becomes a part of the narrative.

The strategy of prominent Republicans flipping to vote for Harris is specifically designed to help Republicans win Congress.

If Republican voters are demoralized by the prospect of Trump, a lot are going to just stay home and not vote at all. That would lead to a Democratic electoral sweep.

Cheney, George Will and other Republican ghouls’ best option to avoid this is to give permission to their voting base to toss their Presidential vote to Harris, but also get them into the polls so they can be reliable Republican voters down the ticket and try to keep the House and take the Senate.

FFS, quit giving the enemy oxygen.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Interesting angle. If it wasn't so close (how tf is it this close) I might agree more. But gop voters staying home, this way they vote for Harris and GOP Congress is also an interesting point. But maga Congress right now is a disaster, shutdowns and defaults are insane. So I think they want maga gone.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Not everything has to be 18D chess. Maybe they just hate Trump.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It doesn't have to be 18D chess, but it can also be a result that republicans will take advantage of.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago

Everyone will take whatever advantage they can from any result. Apply previous sentence to any scenario.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago

I will join you in this

[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 months ago

That guy’s still a cunt.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 4 months ago (1 children)

This really isn't that surprising. The Republican party has become a cult of personality around Trump, putting it at odds with actual, ideological conservatives.

I don't know what Trump's ideology is, or if he even has one. He seems to only believe in his own ambition, for wealth, power, and control.

However, conservativism does lend itself to people like Trump rising to power, because it promotes a central authority and/or aristocracy that preserves tradition, culture, and the established social order. Conservatism doesn't just tolerate social hierarchies, like class, it promotes them, and, in fact conservatism believes that such hierarchies are not only necessary, but natural and essential. It makes sense that malignant narcissists would take advantage of such a system to try and take their "rightful place" at the top of the hierarchies, because they believe that they are inherently superior to everyone else.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

This really isn’t that surprising. The Republican party has become a cult of personality around Trump, putting it at odds with actual, ideological conservatives.

Luckily for them, they still have a party.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Do you mean the Democrats? If so, yeah, the Democrats do seem willing to accept anti-Trump conservatives into their party.

The Democrats really want to be a big tent party. They'll take just about anyone within a certain ideological range, centered around the American political middle. This definitely includes many conservatives.

I question the effectiveness of this strategy, though, as when you include too many opposing ideologies in a single party, it can be difficult for the party to choose a clear path to take. It's often the case that when you try to appeal to as many different people as possible, you end up not appealing to very many people at all.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 4 months ago

Do you mean the Democrats? If so, yeah, the Democrats do seem willing to accept anti-Trump conservatives into their party.

Willing to accept? They've been desperate to please them for decades.

The Democrats really want to be a big tent party. They’ll take just about anyone within a certain ideological range, centered around the American political middle. This definitely includes many conservatives.

And excludes progressives.

I question the effectiveness of this strategy, though, as when you include too many opposing ideologies in a single party, it can be difficult for the party to choose a clear path to take.

It would be if the default weren't "pander to the right and only the right."

[–] [email protected] 20 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Will is conservative, but also believes in America, and in Democracy. He knows that Trump is terrible for both of those things. So even though he's going to disagree with Harris on damn near every policy position that she has, he recognizes that she's the far, far better option for the country.

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