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[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago

Thank god because I live in AZ and felt bad they had no AC. I even had one break down on the street as the engine overheated the driver didn’t know what to do. But it sucks the driver was worried about making deliveries on time. I told the driver not to drive that car cause it’s not safe

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

Given the fashion for giving vehicle models latinate masculine names like Camino and Montero, they missed a trick by not naming the postal vehicle the Tristero.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The one thing I wish they did with these things is make the roof out of solar panels.

These things are going to spend most days sitting outside in direct sunlight. They have nice big flat roofs which makes them pretty perfect to throw on solar panels. You likely would not need much charge infrastructure for the new vehicles and you'd have cut the ownership cost down even more significantly (especially in states with high electrical rates).

Regardless, these things are a no-brainer even without solar on all the vehicles. These are low speed vehicles with dedicated routes and loads of stop/go action. There's not a more clear place to use an EV.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Solan panels on vehicles sounds like a great idea but the physics makes it a stupid gimmick.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (7 children)

How so? Is it that they aren't efficient enough to be worth the materials it's made from?

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 months ago (4 children)

I'm not against the swap to EV but that is one Cloudy With a Chance of Meatballs looking ass truck.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 2 months ago (3 children)

The unusual look is to make it easier to see around the front of the vehicle, which is especially important if you are stopping and starting.

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[–] [email protected] 122 points 2 months ago (11 children)

EVs for service vehicles that do a lot of local starts and stops is a no-brainer. Should have been done a long time ago. It's no wonder that they're getting good reception, after years of working with worn out equipment. I regularly see tow trucks with a Grumman.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago

Honestly anything would have been better than those old iron dukes. They were dated in the 80’s

[–] [email protected] 84 points 2 months ago (7 children)

Trump’s guy Louis deJoy did his damndest to prevent USPS from adopting EVs.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 months ago

They and transit buses should have been the driver (heh) for hybrids at least.

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[–] [email protected] 68 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (4 children)

This article does that annoying thing where it uses ~~acronyms~~ Initialisms without previously using the full verbiage at least once.

BEV - Battery-Electric Vehicle

NGDV - Next Generation Delivery Vehicle

LLV - Long Life Vehicle

[–] [email protected] 26 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Initialisms, technically. But thank you nevertheless.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 months ago

TIL about initialisms, which are like acronyms but when you pronounce the initial letters individually instead of like a spelled out word. DVD being an initialism, versus SCUBA being an acronym.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Eh, BEV could go either way

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[–] [email protected] 223 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

have air conditioning

have air conditioning

I read the whole article because I had a sneaking suspicion this was probably the biggest (and most important to drivers) upgrade. Although I will be fair and say the ability to walk through the vehicle to get packages instead of having to circle around to the back is pretty fucking sweet as well.

[–] [email protected] 95 points 2 months ago (2 children)

basically how i see it with delivery trucks, you need a few things.

heated/air vented seats for driver comfort along with AC.

easy access to the back of the truck

as well as room to stand in the truck, because the driver is going to have to constantly get in and out of the driver seat, so being able to get out easier/faster is good.

[–] [email protected] 54 points 2 months ago (5 children)

And a…. checks notes….. giant FUCKING window.

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[–] [email protected] 65 points 2 months ago

My dogs know the sound of Mailman Mike's truck when it's a couple blocks away. They go outside to get a treat from him every day when he drives by. I'm guessing they won't do this once he switches to a quiet EV.

Electric motors gave a quiet high pitched whine that will be extremely easy for dogs to hear and will the mailman is coming once they catch on.

So glad to see the upgrade actually has quality of life features for the drivers beyond not needing to breathe in exhaust fumes all day!

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

They look pretty cool, too! I hope our mail carrier gets one soon. They've given her a van for now since I guess the old Grumman one she was using finally conked out.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago

Plus the cool hood really helps with seeing over the hood, makes them safer.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago (4 children)

It seems odd to turn to Oshkosh to build these. I wonder how they compare to Amazon's Rivian vans.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I'd guess there's a bit of MIC lobbying and chicanery afoot here. Like, it does seem like Oshkosh makes some good vehicles, but there's always pressure to support defense companies when government bidding happens.

Please note that this is completely baseless speculation on my part. I'm an idiot on the internet that knows fuck-all about shit.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

My first thought as well. This is par for the course in modern US.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I mean... the previous ones were by Northop Grumman?

Is it really a shock that the US turns to defense companies for this kind of thing?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

There was a time when these were built by Jeep/AMC motors. People used to buy these used at auction and drive them after they were retired. And electric delivery vehicles are already built by companies like Rivian and Ford, though I don’t know what the cost difference is.

I would think building a “bespoke” vehicle for USPS would result in more expensive service parts. But I don’t know what kind of service contracts are included with these.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

The Grumman LLVs were "bespoke" and have been being used since the 80's??

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yes, and before that they were a general jeep vehicle built by built by Jeep/AMC. They sold the contract to LTV in 1980.

https://www.onallcylinders.com/2018/07/04/neither-snow-nor-rain-a-brief-history-of-the-postal-mail-jeep/

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

And talking about the US prior to the military industrial complex and post military industrial complex are two different things.

Post WWII its been a revolving door of "defense" company executives having high positions in government.

Remember VP Dick Cheney, former CEO of Halliburton? Remember Halliburton getting no-bid contracts to rebuild Iraq?

My point is: this is the norm now.

Is it stupid? Yes. It is a result of the growth of the power of the military industrial complex? Also yes. Is it what you ought to expect based on past behavior? Fucking obviously.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

True, but I don't think it's had any link to the aerospace company for a very long time, right?

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