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Liberals Are Not Laughing About Jon Stewart's Jabs at Joe Biden (www.rollingstone.com)

submitted 8 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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He also said that the danger posed by another Trump term doesn’t excuse Biden from scrutiny but “actually makes him more subject to scrutiny.”

To leftists and progressives fed up with Biden, particularly his commitment to Israel as it continues to bomb civilians in Gaza, the assessment was not just fair — it was obvious. But more centrist Democrats, including those most likely to have appended “Blue Wave” and “Resistance” labels to their social media accounts in the Trump years, were appalled at what they saw as a betrayal by one of their own.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago

I actually think it would have been damaging to pretend that Biden is perfect. People who can be convinced to vote one way or another aren't blind to the flaws of the current administration, pretending that everything is rosy will switch them off and they'll stay home.

Providing honest criticism, where warranted, of both sides and acknowledging the very real concerns around Biden is more likely to keep people engaged and informed. Despite how flawed Biden is, any sane, informed voter chooses him over Trump every time.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 8 months ago

Our candidate is so far from what voters want that we run articles about how great the economy is and how much awesome shit he got through to try to convince voters because the alternative is a nightmare. Someone just came in and said the things that we've been deliberately ignoring. Oh noez! DAMAGE CONTROL. DAMAGE CONTROL. DAMAGE CONTROL.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

He wasn't wrong to say those things, but it was really scary watching it.

Thinking "it's ethical that he do this, but what will it cost us?"

How many votes? How many fractions of a % of the total vote did this push away from Biden?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

If the candidate is so weak that a TV show comedy segment can take votes away...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

The "not a nazi" platform is strong.

But is it strong enough?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago

Stop trying to make a story of this.

The old adage says "progressives need to fall in love; conservatives need to fall in line."

It means conservatives and their focus on loyalty means they neither express or accept any criticism of their party's leadership. Progressives, though, always exist in that sea of doubt and always need to be convinced of the validity of their candidate because they're always reassessing.

TL;DR -- this outrage over negative comments is a little too fanboy, a little too accepting for actual progressives. It's not their way. This outrage that is being reported means there's more conservatives learning how to be progressive and need some help. Let them in the idea that doubt is okay and not to be angry about the disloyalty.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 8 months ago (1 children)

ONE-TIME FANS WHO perhaps remember comedian Jon Stewart only taking satirical swipes at conservatives while host of The Daily Show

Not a good look for an article to start with such a hot take. Anyone who thought Stewart never took aim at Democrats couldn't have been a fan because they must have never watched his fucking show.

[+] [email protected] -17 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Time and place, Jon...

We're on the cusp of an actual fascist uprising in America, let's not disparage the guy standing in the way of that, yeah?

[–] [email protected] -5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

No we're not. We are just on the cusp of four shitty years. People are overreacting to a demented old man. There's a long list of things the crazy fucker wants to do, and an extremely short list of things he will actually be able to do.

The media silos are feeding everyone panic pablum with a chaser of hysteria pills. We've had bad presidents before and everyone lived through them.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

It's really easy to call alarmism - it means nobody has to do anything about the problem and no one is to blame. We've got politicians quoting Mien Kampf almost verbatim, but sure, it's just an overreaction 🙄

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

No it means exactly what the definition for alarmism says. You can choose to believe "it means nobody has to do anything about the problem and no one is to blame".

And quoting Mein Kampf only means that the politician in question is either mentally disturbed or dog whistling.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

Life must be nice with blinders on, buddy... 🙄

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago

3 steps toward fascism instead of 5 isn't standing in the way.

Ooh save us from the guy who wants to sidestep congress to back genocide, guy who sidesteps congress to back genocide!

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago

I'd rather vote for the liberal comedian, tbh.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago (1 children)

And they all started chanting "four more years" from their couches to drown out any discontentment with Biden.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Not all of us, bud.

I voted for Biden and shall again, because the alternative is despicable, corrupt, treasonous, rapey, evil, and just fuckin' wrong, and so is their candidate.

The Dems don't have another candidate that has any chance of beating Pumpkin Tits, because the Dems still believe in time-outs instead of spankings, politically, and they don't want their rich donors to clutch their pearls.

(If the Dems' balls were ever to descend, that might be a different story, but here we are. )

Jab away, Jon.

[–] [email protected] 50 points 8 months ago (1 children)

He was right on all points.

But people obviously missed the point he made about the choice is still between a old Biden or old lunatic. So it's not some 50/50 both sides bullshit

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago

in a way, I wonder if JS was egging the mainstream media on to highlight the difference themselves, to distinguish a key difference - one's an imperfect solution, the other is a deranged tyrant criminal. Yeah, do the math.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 8 months ago

The show was really funny. This post was a good excuse to watch the monologue again. Looking forward to next Monday's show.

[–] [email protected] 51 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Who wasn't laughing? It was hilarious. Jon Stewart's points were spot on all around.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 8 months ago

Who wasn't laughing?

People who require uncritical support of their candidate.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago

As a Canadian, I was laughing my ass off

[–] [email protected] 18 points 8 months ago

That episode was scathing and I love it.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 8 months ago

Guess I'm not a liberal. The man is genius.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 8 months ago

If you didn't laugh at Stewart's criticism, you're no better than a Bill Maher or new york times liberal.

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