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Donald Trump’s debate performance was far worse than even his inner circle anticipated.

While Donald Trump’s team is publicly pushing a postdebate victory lap, many in his camp were privately disappointed in the Republican candidate’s performance on Tuesday. 

CNN’s Kaitlan Collins reported Wednesday night that several Trump insiders were “stunned” by his poor performance and by just how easily he fell for all of Kamala Harris’s attempts to provoke him.

“I’m told that as soon as Donald Trump exited that debate stage, he immediately began quizzing those waiting in his viewing room about how the last 90 minutes had gone,” said Collins. “While several people praised him to his face, telling him they did a great job, that’s not what a lot of them are saying privately today.

Apparently, all that practice with members of his team, such as former Hawaii Representative Tulsi Gabbard, had ultimately amounted to very little when it came time to debate.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

This kind of article is such a joke. This is the same as them saying they are told people are eating dogs.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

That's just testimony that his cadre of sycophantic deer ticks are just as stupid as he is deranged.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

Reality is truly shocking

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago

TBF he did terribly on the first debate as well, however he was able to form up his “terrible” strongly in mostly coherent lies that left Biden’s mumbled and lost “decent” truths in the dust.

This time Harris led strongly and let trump hang himself, which he did admirably at.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 month ago (1 children)

…because it surprised NO ONE else…

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 month ago (4 children)

No one is surprised he did poorly, but I don't think anyone expected him to do "immigrants are eating your pets" levels of bad.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

They're eating your cats! They're eating your dogs!

They're ~~eating your babi~~ aborting your babies!

Me, making sure I'm not watching The Onion News

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

I read that as absorbing your babies.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The "immigrants are eating your pets" works on his followers unfortunately.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

Anything would work on those followers. They are not the people anyone is trying to convince with the debate.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

What's surprising is all the people who on Facebook are now saying it's true lol

It's literally the most absurd claim ever lol.

It's possible it happened once probably by some druggie

But it's definitely not something that happens regularly 😂

It's crazy how these people literally see immigrants as animals or a different species lol

They're just normal people

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

Yeah that’s probably true but I was not so secretly hoping he would.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago

Apparently, all that practice with members of his team, such as former Hawaii Representative Tulsi Gabbard, had ultimately amounted to very little when it came time to debate.

Well, in his defense, you try to teach this idiot anything. It's impossible. /s

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Then they aren’t very good at their jobs.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)

A dead horse will never win the race, even if you drag it around really fast.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

A not totally incompetent trainer of a dead horse would not be stunned how bad the dead horse does.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

From the text, I conclude that the team trained El Douché apparently successfully, but the moment he approached the stage something popped in his head, the whole house of cards tumbled down.

[–] [email protected] 42 points 1 month ago (1 children)

“Several of them told CNN they were stunned that the former president failed to do a better job executing on the talking points that he had been preparing with his team for weeks against Vice President Harris, her record, her policy reversals.”

Apparently, all that practice with members of his team, such as former Hawaii Representative Tulsi Gabbard, had ultimately amounted to very little when it came time to debate.

Oh please. If there is a trump “insider” who thinks for one hot second this demented chattering rapist can stay on message without large-type notes and a shock collar, then they're as big an idiot as they sound.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

"~~We have always been at war with Eureast Asia~~ Trump will absolutely dominate the debate. "

It doesn't matter what they believe, as long as the repeat what the party wants them to say.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

It's amazing to me that anybody on his team was shocked he did so poorly. It just indicates to me that they're absolutely shit at their jobs. Being a good advisor requires you to be able to recognize the difference between reality and fantasy, and anybody who thought Trump would do well in this debate after spending any amount of time actually listening to him has failed this most basic of tests.

I'm surprised that he did so well in the debate, actually. I mean, he still got absolutely bodied, but no microphones picked up the sound of him shitting himself this time, so he's already showing an improvement over his debate performance with Biden.

Edit: it just occurred to me that Trump randomly shitting himself could be the reason his team were so gung ho for muted mics: it means that there's 50% less chance he'll drop a deuce while near a hot mic. If so, that's a great strategy on their part.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

You can expect a loss and still be surprised by the extent l.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago (3 children)

He did fine. He likely lost precisely zero votes. There was nothing for him to lose. It's not like cult members watch their cult leader in a debate and then go "oh I guess I'll leave my cult." People leaving cults often literally have to go through a process of deprogramming and copious therapy.

Harris did well, so maybe she picks up a point, but since she's lost about a point since the DNC, that makes it essentially a wash. While it was a good debate for Harris, it ends up meaning very little. All the hyperventilating about it is way outsized to the effect.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

He did very poorly. His base is largely racist whites. Harris knows that very well and made sure to embarrass him in ways the base wouldn't like. Belittled him to his face as if he was nothing, and smirked at his impotent old man rage. She made trump look old and bumbling, and even conservative media is having trouble denying it.

He looked weak and it will cost him votes. Especially since his campaign is barely trying dogshit at the moment.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 month ago

Good luck and god speed.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It's really not about him losing votes, though. Despite the fact that there are a truly mind-boggling number of idiot cultists out there who are for some reason devoted to this moron, there are not enough of them to win an election. Both candidates need to appeal to the vast pool of undecided or apathetic voters in order to win. In 2020, the Democrats won because that pool of people were highly motivated to oust Trump after living through 4 years of his presidency, but people have very short memories and even shorter attention spans, and so the Dems can't really count on the same thing happening again in 2024.

When Trump was running against Biden at the beginning of this race, things were looking grim for the Democrats, because that group of morons who can't be bothered to pay the slightest bit of attention to what's happening in their government (apathetic & undecided voters) decided that they couldn't really tell the difference between two senile, doddering old men, so Trump's rambling incoherence wasn't that big of a problem. Now that he's facing someone more than 2 decades younger than him who still has the complete use of her mental faculties, it's imperative for him to do SOMETHING to make himself not look like a shoeless old man in a hospital gown wandering between lanes of traffic after escaping from his rest home. This debate didn't do that.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

While that all may be true, if you look at projections for the electoral college based on polling numbers in battleground states, Trump is currently projected to win the presidency. So he actually doesn't need to do much to make himself look any different, as frustrating and scary as that may be.

Current projections have Harris winning the popular vote and losing the election. So if she doesn't increase her vote share, she's going to lose due to the vagaries of the electoral college. She basically need to win by something absurd like 3.4% and have that adequately reflected in about five states.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Is it immoral to start a cult and continue to use cult tactics to steal members from another cult to deprogram them and herd them all into therapy? Asking for a friend, and 90% of our parents.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

-Are y'all with the cult?

-It's not a cult, it's an organisation that promotes the deprograming of-

-This is it.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

We need a cult of mental health.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

Maybe they need more mouth breathing. I would have sworn they had it covered but…

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 month ago

They were no expecting much, and he managed to even wreck those low expectations.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 month ago

Trump is drowning in the misinformation you helped create yet now you wonder why he did badly?

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago

When up against someone who can at least stay on topic, he looks like a mad man.