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I'm only an hour into this person's 4 hour(!) review/criticism of the Star Wars hotel and am baffled at how poorly this was handled.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

Just learned about her thanks! She is very passionate, clear and intelligent. Unfortunately this is a lesson most people learn about premium vacations and she made a 4 hour rant video about it. I'm not a star wars fan but I'm likely watching this whole thing.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago

I'm the type that when I see descriptions like "be the hero of your own Star Wars story" for a tourist destination, I immediately think it's going to be some cheesy oversold experience because you can't really mass produce a main character role.

First of all, just the resources that would be required for the one on one time that would be involved is unrealistic for any scale beyond small groups.

Second, they aren't like DMs that can roll with whatever their characters design; "your own story" needs to be pigeon holed into a limited set of choices they can prepare for, especially if there's supposed to be high production value involved and special effects.

Third, of course any interactive elements are going to be ridiculously easy. They'd rather deal with people disappointed at how easy it is than people (especially kids) frustrated that they can't do something.

So I knew right at the start of this video that it wasn't my kind of thing.

But this thing didn't even live up to the cheesy experience I would have expected. Seems like they bit off way more than they could chew with the initial idea but then we costs ballooned, they could only cut features and offerings while increasing the price, leaving it as an overpriced but underwhelming thing, in the end.

So much corporate shit is like this now. I think it's just another symptom of the problems capitalism brings. Under capitalism, you get a mix of people who want to do a thing and make money from it and people who want to make money and think doing a thing will get them that money. Those that are focused on the thing will generally produce something of much higher quality than those focused on the money they'll make. One asks, "is this good? Could it be better?" while the other asks, "is this good enough? Could it be cheaper?"

She touches on the other aspect in the video a bit, but could have gone a bit further (though I understand why she didn't): the misleading marketing. Social media marketers with conflicted interests between being honest with their audience and keeping the providers of the free shit happy so the free shit keeps flowing. She touches on that aspect.

But I wouldn't be surprised if some of those trolls defending Disney are paid by Disney, maybe directly maybe indirectly. I'm not aware of any regulation against hiring people to pretend to like your product online. I'm not sure that would even technically count as advertisement, if truth in advertisement even matters anymore these days.

Jenny has integrity, at least as far as I can tell. Those "influencers" that don't are scum, whether they are doing it for free shit or getting paid to do it directly.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago

This was basically not a hotel, but a star wars improv camp where you were all but forced to participate in a bunch of half-assed activities that were supposed to be "immersive" but kinda just fell flat (especially for the price)

[–] [email protected] 38 points 8 months ago

Love me some Jenny.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Disney was a creative and innovative company up until the 90s maybe... In the last 2 decades almost everything they are known for was either made before or bought and destroyed

[–] [email protected] 14 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Disney built its entire empire on existing/public domain stories. Cinderella, Little Mermaid, Snow White, Sleeping Beauty, Beauty and the Beast, Robin Hood. The list goes on. Hell even Aladdin is largely located from Middle Eastern fairy tales.

The fact that they're relying on existing IP now is nothing new. It's who they've always been. It's just that they had to buy it since it wasn't already in the public domain.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago

Disney built its entire empire on existing/public domain stories. Cinderella, Little Mermaid, Snow White, Sleeping Beauty, Beauty and the Beast, Robin Hood. The list goes on. Hell even Aladdin is largely located from Middle Eastern fairy tales.

Absolutely, but at least back then they truly added value by tweaking the stories (those original stories are mostly horror stories to our hears) and providing great animation. Nowadays, they buy great IPs and just ruin them; not only they are not adding any value, they are actively taking value away from them

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago

The 90s? Nah, it died with Walt Disney

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Up until they gave Eisner the boot

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

He was also often very shit, Disney land Paris, for example, that was a huge fiscal drag for decades. A lot of the better stuff he is credited with was due to Wells influence or in spite of him.

Modern disney collapse is due to Chapek, and in particular, why the budget was cut for Star Cruise early in its development. Iger is far from perfect but better than Eisner and Chapek combined.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

They all suck but after Eisner is when I personally noticed Disneyland updates to be detrimental

[–] [email protected] 25 points 8 months ago (2 children)

The constant "do stuff!!!"-push combined with the actual insane pricing of the experience, making it so that people feel the need to get all the worth they can from it, gave Jenny an anxiety attack, which she notes that she has never experienced before or since.

That's fucking wild.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 8 months ago

The insane pricing creating a miserable push to do all the things is basically the entire Disney experience for families. I used to work in one of the parks, and people were exhausted and burnt out trying to do everything, and my advice to people visiting the parks was always "don't try to do everything, try to pick some of it and enjoy what you do".

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago

I feel like they should have tied this somehow to an existing hotel instead of trying to make a completely new one with such a small number of rooms and high overhead cost.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 8 months ago

Her entire channel is a great watch, only person I've ever used Patreon for

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