Those 2 undecideds that thought trump did better were just trying to get on TV and pump up their boy. You'd have to be braindead to think Trump won that train wreck last night
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Kamala turned Trump into a demented muppet.
Kamala's facial expressions when Trump started talking about immigrants eating people's pets genuinely had me cracking up
Yeah, her reactions to his insanity were the best part.
She pushed his buttons like a 60s sci-fi actor pretending to know what any of the blinking switches on the computer do.
Now it is up to Kamala and the DNC to hold their promises and keep fighting till election day.
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Keep campaigning in key rust-belt states.
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Stay on message.
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Pass as many executive orders to be finalized after Jan 6 2025.
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Keep fighting for the middle-class families and get people like Bernie Sanders and Katie Porter and Tammy Duckworth to front-run every possible middle-class campaign and draft bills for congress, house and senate.
DO NOT GET INVOLVED IN CONTROVERSIES OR SIT BACK IDLY!
Get Elected and then do whatever PR statement, controversy, bs etc.
Trump looked weak, old, and pathetic. Kamala destroyed him.
11 leaned Harris, 10 leaned Trump. And yet, 22 of them said Kamala won the debate, and only 2 of them (obviously "leans Trump") said Trump won.
Participants were recruited from a spring survey conducted by The Post and the Schar School of Policy and Government at George Mason University. In the week before the debate, 12 said they would probably vote for Harris, 10 said they would probably vote for Trump, and three said they were unlikely to vote for either.
24 isn't a very large poll, but this is an outstanding result. I'm pretty sure 91.6% Kamala vs 8.4% Trump is outside statistical error even with such a small sample size.
Kamala did good tonight people. Its a celebration night. But the next weeks its our job as debate watchers to meme and fuck up the Republican talking points and pain-points in their discussions.
Remember the pain points: "I have a concept of a plan", "Tim and I are gun owners, no one is taking your guns away", and the fucking nonsense Donald Trump did to defend himself when he invited the literal fucking Taliban to Camp. David.
Not everyone saw the debate. And even those who have seen the debate will have selective memory and forget about these moments. Its our job as the audience to remind people what they're trying to hard to forget. That Donald Trump is a weak loser and Kamala put him in his place tonight.
So many women, and women of color lean Trump. That's beyond insane!
Women who were raised in churches telling them they are lesser than men so shut up and do what their guys tell them too.
If you dig through there histories you will find many if not most are like this.
Crystal & Konnie!
Sounds a bit like Bonnie & Clyde.
Someone has to be the most stupid and least informed I guess.
I read that, and it's a good sign although do wait a few days you polls. As someone who did statistical research professionally, do keep in mind that this is ultimately qualitative. It's better to read what they had to say than how they voted. We'll get a better idea in a few days, and even that will be somewhat flawed (political polls being low quality for the sake of speed).
I'd give you a length explanation about statistical methodology and validity, but I'd rather not to that unsolicited, lol.
I’d give you a length explanation about statistical methodology and validity, but I’d rather not to that unsolicited, lol.
I know how complex it is.
I'm approximately college-level statistics. But my sister is literally PH.d level in health-statistics (or more precisely: public health) and worked at the CDC and today works for FDA. Trust me, I get plenty of the advanced discussions / paradoxes / autocorrelation / etc. etc. stuff. So I know I'm out of my league in the overall matter, and that I'm oversimplifying.
Hehe, but you know, and that's why it's better not to go on a three page comment about it. In any case, I hope we get to hear more good news and polls. It makes doom scrolling less doomy.
This tells me that 12% of all people are legally brain-dead.
You can fool some of the people all of the time.
Or knowingly lying to try and make Trump look like less of a loser, which I realized while writing this sentence means they're definitely still brain-dead.
Who are we kidding, they probably didn't even watch it.
She ate his fucking lunch. Bodied his bitch ass.
Harris ripped trumps little shriveled balls off and crushed them in her hands. Anyone saying otherwise is very much in denial.
Trump denial syndrome
Depends on who you asked. I wanted to see what conservatives had to say about it, and they're saying the exact opposite. Granted I was looking at gab.com, so take it with a grain of salt. I have no idea how representative that site is of conservatives viewpoints.
I just skimmed /r/conservative 's live thread and they are mostly talking about how unfair it was, with a few "i got a bad feeling about this" and "why are we being bigraded" posts, which is a pretty good indicator he lost imo. It'll be 8nteresting to see what narratives they cling too once the dust settles and the astroturfers sync up.
We need to get ahead of this. In a few short hours, maybe just a day or two, they will consolidate support around Trump again.
Our job is to meme the best lines of Trump's insanity as much as possible, and spread the message far and wide. Trump is easily manipulated by Kamala. Trump's only leaders he respected tonight were Venezuela and Hungary / Orban. I dunno, I'm bad with memes. But you all get the gist.
/r/conservative will get itself together shortly. But we need to spike the football tonight.
My favorite line was “Now she wants to do transgender operations on illegal aliens that are in prison.” It doesn’t get more “old man yells at cloud” than that.
To be fair, I support free healthcare, including gender affirming care, for absolutely everyone. Which means, yes, I do want to do transgender operations on illegal aliens that are in prison. Not the top of my priority list, but a win’s a win.
There's a lot to pick out here.
My favorite personally (as a Neocon) is Trumps utter flubbing of the Afghanistan question. Harris criticized Trumps handling of Afghanistan by inviting the fucking Taliban to Camp David.... While Trump talked about imaginary Taliban members he talked with.
Who the fuck is Abdul?
Trump not only admitted to working with the Taliban directly, but was so fucking braindead he couldn't even remember the name of the guy he invited to Camp David. This is going to be my meme.
But it doesn't matter what moment you meme. What matters is that you MUST meme these moments and spread them far and wide. We will consolidate on what works afterwards.
Our local news had a poll about it and shockingly Trump was leading the poll by a wide margin.
I was dumbfounded.
Was it by any chance an online poll?
QR code on the screen, so yes. My take is that his supporters load up on polls like this to make it seem as if he’s won the debate.
On the other hand, there are a lot of asshats around the area too.
Yeah, I'd say an online poll is about as accurate a pulse of the people's opinions as a YouTube comment section.
Your neighbors appear either to be absolute morons, or work in a foreign click factory.
You've got to remember that these are just simple farmers. These are people of the land. The common clay of the new West. You know…morons.
Yeah, the debate was never going to make any difference for the bases of either party. But it might make a difference for moderates and independents.
I agree, but I'm glad that some big news outlets are reporting it this way. Less not-so-subtle sane-washing and acceptance of Trump, more making him look like the weak weirdo he is.
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