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Wow, how do you even get more murican at this point? Honestly, i'm just impressed
and a nefarious solution to all America's problems has come to me - draft all your Republicans into the war they really want anyway! And then just leave em in mexico, without their trucks.
What if we take over Mexico and then make it part of the USA?
With "New Mexico" already taken, I'm not sure that would work out.
there's a lot less US politicians wanting a luxury war with mexico than there are people in mexico who will shoot back. One wonders if these dumbasses realize the ramifications of an unpopular, pointless war would mean for them if people realize this.
So, Unitedstateians are gonna help deal with crime but will plant something different to create problems for mexico and the other latin american countries like in the previous century?
ok, well, lets roll that back a little bit.
Let's say we help mexico in getting rid of the cartels. And then mexico can actually deal with it's problems. Now we're getting somewhere.
Frankly, i think the only true border solution, is dissolution of the cartels, in whatever manner that happens to be. Then facilitating good relations with mexico, considering their place as a trade partner at the moment, that just seems universally beneficial.
We could end Cartels in a year by just decriminalizing all drugs. And there is evidence that this, accompanied by a comprehensive addiction recovery drive is actually MORE effective at reducing drug use than punishing addicts.
But since Cruelty is the Point here in the U.S. for half the voting population don't see it happening any time soon.
that is also a valid strategy, but there are complications to that of which i will not get into since that is beyond the point. Though that would really only remove the drug trade from the cartel, other crime, and various shenaniganry would still be up for the taking (they might even increase human trafficking)
You know, because the only people crossing the border are Mexicans. And Mexican cartels have been the only driver of emigration.
the cartels are a significant driver behind trafficking. It doesn't matter that it's only mexicans, it matters that the cartels have control over the border. As that's what allows them to traffic.
Earth. Hitler. 1938.
Gaza 2006-present.
This seems well thought out.
The logic of this rhetoric is essentially the same as the logic of modern Russia- "we need a buffer zone", and the target country "is not a country" and it's not genocide or imperialism when we have a reason to do it but we don't have a reason so we have to tell lies to convince our people that we do have one.
Well here we go. This time next year they'll be finding yellow cake in Mexico City.
There's lithium in them their hills.
Eh, their ideology is enough. Especially since we've got more than enough lithium in the Salton Sea, which is already an environmental disaster zone.
US doesn't go to war without an economic incentive. Oil, opioids, etc.
No we solved that in Iraq. The big money maker is the war itself. Supplying the soldiers, bases, and Reconstruction needs. All at an outrageous markup and done as cheaply as possible. (If it gets done at all)
Right, absolutely no oil in Iraq...
Iraq famously retained control of its oil. International news conferences and everything. While some American companies got contracts to run oil fields from the Iraqi government, there's also Chinese and Iraqi companies with significant holdings there too.
The disruption of supply while the fields burned and had to be rebuilt made a killing for the Saudi Arabian friends/sponsors of the Bush family.
The contracting for services to the oil fields is up to the companies that won the auctions from the Iraqi government. Which also falls under, Reconstruction and service contracts. Furthermore, that doesn't mean we get the oil. That oil is still owned by the company that owns the rights and most of it goes to Asia.
The closest we came to "doing it for the oil" is to increase the global supply of oil. And when I tell you they made ten times as much supplying and building the FOBs, I am not being sensational.
Mark... how did that work for you the last time?
That's right... you fell down and broke your Alamo.
Member when George Bush shut down the border completely and it only lasted 48 hrs before his phone was ringing off the hook with angry corporate farm owners????
I member.