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Edit: NOTE, I am the receiver of the texts.

So many people asking me to have my wife do something different on her end.

Beloved, she is on iPhone because she doesn't want to do anything "weird." She is texting from her phone number using her texting app. That's what's going to happen.

Now, why can't I get iMessage on my android phone? If it's just a messenger app why not make it available for Android?

I'd use it.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

@geometry dash the RCS is not something Apple does. Your messages are currently unencrypted and of worse quality; however, this will be rectified shortly. In the meantime, you are better off using a different messaging software.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

Apple intentionally makes iPhone-Android interoperability crap in order to sell iPhones. That's not conspiracy theorizing, Tim Apple blatantly admitted to it.

https://www.theverge.com/2022/9/7/23342243/tim-cook-apple-rcs-imessage-android-iphone-compatibility

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

You're probably getting suggestions for what she should do different because, at least at a starting point, it could just as easily be something her phone is doing before sending as it is something your phone is doing on the receiving end.

I've had a phone say 'video to big, do you want to crop or share through abc app' before. Don't recall the exact message, but seems more likely than you phone downgrading something it's receiving.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Cause then you won't buy an iPhone.. Duh

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Keep a stock message on your phone to cut and paste whenever an iPhone user sends you a potato-quality video. This is mine:

Please don't send video to me via iMessage from your iPhone. In fact, you really shouldn't send video via iMessage at all. Video sent by Apple looks terrible on non-iOS phones. This is not a shortcoming of other phones, this is entirely Apple's fault and is their explicit intention. If you want to send a video from your iPhone, you can open the Photos app, tap the share button, and select "share as an iCloud link". That will enable All users to view your glorious video of your cat/kids/dinner/vacation/rant/whatever in the high resolution that your overpriced phone is capable of. Another option is to send the video using a messaging app such as Signal or WhatsApp. Alternate messaging apps are what most of the world use in lieu of sms/mms text messaging.

This is a form letter response and you will get it every time you send me video from your iPhone via iMessage.

P.S. I love you

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 month ago (1 children)

What a great way to let your friends and loved ones know you are insufferable to deal with and will drop a rant on them about your minor inconveniences at every opportunity.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Hey, it worked! They stopped sending him videos in low res. In fact they stopped sending him videos all together.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The real reason: Apple intentionally doesn't support the open protocols that send pics and videos to non-Apple devices. These protocols are a decade old and work great. They use a proprietary protocol instead, which they will not share with other phone manufacturers.

What the average iPhone user thinks: Apple is better than Android!

It's pretty dumb.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (2 children)

The thing is, Apple phones do support these things, but only if they change the default messenger app, and most Apple users won't do that. IPhone users are worse than Windows users when It comes to changing their default apps.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

If you mean changing which app natively gets used for texting, that’s not something you can do on iOS. You can choose to open a different app, but if I tell Siri to text someone it will always 100% without a doubt no way to circumvent it use the standard Messages app. iOS doesn’t let you change your default for texts.

Hell, they only allow you to change your default web browser because they were dragged into court kicking and screaming. And even then, all third-party browsers are forced to use Safari’s engine for the backend, and aren’t allowed to use their own engines. Even Chrome, Firefox, and Brave are just reskins of Safari on iOS. And even then, any apps that open an in-app browser will still use Safari even when your default browser is different. For instance, I’m browsing lemmy on Voyager, and it opens all links in a built in Safari browser, (even though my default browser is set to Firefox.)

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago

Unless I did a really poor job researching it, you cannot change your default SMS/MMS application on an iPhone.

You can use other messaging apps like Signal, Whatsapp, Telegram, or AIM. But if you want to use SMS, you have to use iMessage.

Maybe this is US-specific though. Europe often forces Apple to do things they don't do here.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You both use Signal, problem solved.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Me and my wife do this and its pretty much the only person we talk to on there.

Its got some nice features to keep track of images and such. I was surprised she went for it really, usually 99% of the ideas I mention to her get turned down lol

Oh forgot to add, we also have android and iOS.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I had to double check that I didn't write this because those words could have literally come from my fingers.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I’m also the signal guy amongst my friends and family. There are dozens of us!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

One of my wife's friends started a group chat there for some reason. Maybe the facebook app attacked them? Who knows but its catching on!

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I think everyone has explained the how and why, but not any real solutions that don't involve using a completely different application. I don't have an iPhone in front of me, but with Android you can share as a link to Google Photos instead of sending the picture/video directly. I am pretty sure you can do something similar with iCloud. Have her try the share as iCloud link instead.

Update: I just tested it. I had them open up Photos, go to the image/video, tap the share button, and then if you scroll down a tiny bit there is a share as iCloud link. I was able to view it just fine on my Android phone.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (2 children)

How is that a better solution than using another messenger app?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

Its less private thats for sure.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

Its less private thats for sure.

[–] [email protected] 63 points 1 month ago

So many people asking me to have my wife do something different on her end. Beloved, she is on iPhone because she doesn’t want to do anything “weird.”

Assuming using a third-party messaging app is "weird", then she can't send you video with acceptable quality. That's how it is.

She can't fix that. You can't fix that. None of the readers here can fix that unless they work at Apple. This may improve in the future when Apple adopts RCS, but there's a lot that real-world implementations of RCS do that isn't in the standard, so the full details of interoperability are uncertain until we see it in the wild.

Now, why can’t I get iMessage on my android phone?

Because Apple doesn't want you to. Apple wants situations like this one to pressure people to buy iPhones because that's apparently easier for some people than agreeing on a messaging app.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)
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