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submitted 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
 

Edited to replace original incorrect Herzog attribution with my own version that correctly attributes the quote

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 months ago (5 children)
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[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (3 children)

So do the other 2/3 come together to do the killing? What's the answer Werner?!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago
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[–] [email protected] 271 points 3 months ago (6 children)

Note:

He never said that. This quote is from William Pannapacker, a professor of American literature at Hope College in Holland, Michigan.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/werner-herzog-germany-quote/

[–] [email protected] 47 points 3 months ago (5 children)

Ah, figures. I should know better than to post quotes without checking if they're attributed correctly

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago (2 children)

You should probably correct it right? Like swap the image for a different Herzog quote, or change it so the image is William

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 3 months ago

"Ah, figures. I should know better than to post quotes without checking if they're attributed correctly"

- ~~Wayne Gretzky~~

- Michael Scott

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[–] [email protected] 162 points 3 months ago (7 children)
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[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago

Audibly laughed!

[–] [email protected] 65 points 3 months ago (2 children)

This is how you remind me?

[–] [email protected] 24 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Every time I do it; makes me laugh!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Oh, by the way thanks for that comment the other day!

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 months ago (2 children)

It's like a free ride when you've already paid AM I DOING THIS RIGHT

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago

Werner Herzog's "Aguirre: the Wrath of God" is on [email protected] here: https://lemmy.world/post/17030774

[–] [email protected] 117 points 3 months ago (12 children)

It's gruesome, isn't it? When I was young, I used to believe that people were, for the most part, decent. Misled, often, stupid, very often; but good at heart. Now, I'm convinced that a good third of our society is broken and a third of our society is blind to anything that doesn't affect them.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

Our politics as of late indicate to me that people of good heart will now kill you for their dear leader.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (9 children)

if it makes you feel any better you were wrong and it was always fucked up. the difference between now and when you were young is that you're more aware now.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago

“10 percent of any population is cruel, no matter what, and 10 percent is merciful, no matter what, and the remaining 80 percent can be moved in either direction.” -Susan Sontag

[–] [email protected] 22 points 3 months ago (3 children)

None of what you describe is necessarily mutually exclusive. You can be broken, misled, misinformed, and stupid, while still being good at heart.

I think that everyone is blind to something. Some of us are less so than others. Growing up in this world will do that to a person. Shit happens to everybody. Some of us are better equipped than others to handle it, while others are not.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

None of what you describe is necessarily mutually exclusive. You can be broken, misled, misinformed, and stupid, while still being good at heart.

Yes, but the issue is that they're broken, misled, misinformed, stupid, AND malicious.

I think that everyone is blind to something. Some of us are less so than others. Growing up in this world will do that to a person. Shit happens to everybody. Some of us are better equipped than others to handle it, while others are not.

I would ascribe that intermittent blindness more to the other ~80% of the population.

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[–] [email protected] 45 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I actually originally dug this picture up for a post of this RawStory article titled 'Their ignorance is willful': WaPo analyst says enough with the MAGA voter pity, which is highly relevant.

The problem with the majority of right wing extremists isn't that they're just stupid misled bumpkins, but that they're actual psychopaths who vote for people like Trump because he's promising to hurt everybody they hate

[–] [email protected] 34 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (3 children)

I'm convinced that we've lost, at minimum, 20% of our nation to some kind of mass-hysteria style sociopathy. I mean, maybe they've always been lost and we just didn't realize it, but going forward, I don't think anything can be done to 'fix' them. Most people, I think, are responsive to their environments and social standards, but after a point, you get so dug in that peer pressure doesn't work, even on social animals like us. All we can do is save the children of that 20%.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 months ago

I think what happened is that it became more acceptable to show their nastiness; that they used to have to hide it because our society wouldn't accept it. Then Trump being elevated to president normalized the violence and hatred being out in the open and those people felt safe to come out of the woodwork.

I feel like it was always there, simmering beneath the surface, but I'm a self-admitted (overall) misanthrope who thinks most people are, on average, pretty shitty.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

We could start by addressing the actual causes of conditions of despair.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 3 months ago (1 children)

It's the same with conservatives pretty much around the world right now.

I really don't know how we're going to unfuck the situation without a lot of bloodshed – and make no mistake, it would be them who spill that blood like they're already doing, just at a much larger scale. As it is, conservatives are a threat to stable and peaceful societies, and due to their resistance to meaningful climate action they're an existential threat to humanity in general.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I have some hope, at least. People in general are passive, even when they hate the status quo, they often cede to a fait accompli. The trick is getting each bit a done deal before conservative talking heads have time to formulate the best Pavlovian Ten Minutes' Hate for their audience.

And making sure the kids continue to be alright.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 3 months ago

It starts with us not engaging in the same thing.

[–] [email protected] 52 points 3 months ago (1 children)

It was a strange feeling when I reached an age and realized that most people I know didn’t meet the standards of what I thought should be a good person.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 months ago

Good people make mistakes, often repeatedly. Great people eventually learn something.

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