this post was submitted on 04 Sep 2024
409 points (95.3% liked)

Curated Tumblr

4096 readers
42 users here now

For preserving the least toxic and most culturally relevant Tumblr heritage posts.

Image descriptions and plain text captions of written content are expected of all screenshots. Here are some image text extractors (I looked these up quick and will gladly take FOSS recommendations):

-web

-iOS

-android

Don't be mean. I promise to do my best to judge that fairly.

founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
 
(page 2) 31 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (3 children)

That's not American cheese.

That's the kraft "cheese food product".

American cheese is essentially Swiss that hasn't aged.

Edit: looks like they've changed the label, but it still says "cheese product", so NOT cheese, kraft even admits it.

load more comments (3 replies)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

IMO the ideal thing to do for hamburgers, mac and cheese, and grilled cheeses (the three foods that I would consider using American cheese for) is this:

Half american cheese for meltiness, half gruyere or other aged flavorful cheese for flavor.

A lot of modern recipes suggest that approach and it has worked well for me.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago (4 children)

As an American, American "cheese" (including single slices, and things like spray cheese) fucking suck. Give me a good pepperjack or white cheddar on my burger, not that processed shit.

load more comments (4 replies)
[–] [email protected] 18 points 4 months ago (1 children)

People seem to forget there's a difference between American cheese and fucking Kraft singles. Kraft singles are like the Spam "ham" of cheeses.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 months ago (7 children)

It also makes a really good grilled cheese

load more comments (7 replies)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago

I'm not saying American cheese is good, but sometimes you just need that shit on a breakfast sandwich.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

American cheese is the best cheese for a cheeseburger because it melts without splitting

- Chef Voldemort

load more comments (2 replies)
[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 months ago

I will not sit here and let grilled cheese be forgotten. American is the best at any melty cheese sandwhich!

[–] [email protected] 45 points 4 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] -3 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Again, that's American cheese "food product". That's not American cheese.

load more comments (3 replies)
load more comments (1 replies)
[–] [email protected] 19 points 4 months ago (3 children)

The wider world when they think of American cheese: yellow shiny shrink wrapped oily substance, wiggles like rubber

Me thinking of the American cheese I've eaten all of my life: white, dry-ish, cut from actual blocks at the deli, feels like, well, cheese

Dunno if it's some regional thing or what. The only place I see yellow American is at chain restaurants.

Also, related and timely:

https://youtu.be/2ck8pXRrI7c

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I believe, "American cheese" is just the name of the orange stuff: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_cheese

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago

No, American cheese, the real cheese, comes in white and orange.

Orange has food coloring added. Like some other cheeses.

The kraft stuff is "American Cheese Food Product", says so right on the label.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

It can be any color from white to orange, it's Colby jack mixed with cheddar and emulsifiers

More Colby (white cheese) results in a lighter color, more or sharper cheddar will give you more yellow/orange

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago

Lots of people only think of Kraft singles when they hear American cheese. Nothing beats a burger/grilled cheese with real deli style American cheese

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Where I'm from, we have access to sharp american cheese. It slaps.

Pointing to kraft singles and insisting that "american cheese bad" is like pointing to Little Caesars and insisting that pizza is a lousy food.

load more comments (3 replies)
[–] [email protected] -3 points 4 months ago

And now we know why Kraft is spelt with a K.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago (2 children)

It's full of emulsifiers and nearly flavorless so it can also make sauces super creamy

[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 months ago (2 children)

You can add sodium citrate and milk to just about any cheese to make it melt smoother if you want. Skip adding American entirely.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Aren't you just describing more or less how they actually make American cheese? Real cheese (cheddar and ?) mixed with curd and emulsifiers.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Pretty much. Just pointing out that you don't need to cut your sauce with American to make it gooey.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago

American is so mild that an even somewhat flavorful cheese will overpower the hell out of it. I'm not worried about a single slice of american diluting my cheese sauce. Not to any perceptible degree, anyway.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I can find american cheese a lot easier than I can find sodium citrate

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago

True. But now you have options.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] [email protected] 30 points 4 months ago (2 children)

The hamburger did not originate in Germany, despite its name. While the exact origins are debated, it is pretty well agreed that it was created in the US sometimes in the late 19th to early 20th century.

The closest connection to germany that some try to make is an entirely different dish that uses ground beef or pork, which is such a loose connection that you might as well say it originated in Egypt as they were the first civilization to make bread.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

The story I heard was that it came to America with Russian Jewish immigrants who took transatlantic ocean liners from Hamburg, which is where it got its name from. (The Jewish origins are important as apparently the beef patty we know originated as a way of prepreparing kosher meals for travelling through areas where options were unknown.)

[–] [email protected] 15 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

The problem is that the origin is "hamburger ~~beef~~ steak" which is the beef patty that came from Germany. This was combined with a sandwich to create a "hamburger sandwich". Over time, the sandwich part was dropped and now here we are.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago (2 children)

It wasn't even really a patty as we know it in burgers, it was more like a slice of breakfast sausage.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago (7 children)

I'd argue if you put breakfast sausage on a bun it adequately fits the definition of a burger.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I wouldn't call a slice of sausage a patty, so I disagree

I cannot tell you why, though, and I make my own sausages and burgers by hand so like, I should know why?

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (3 children)

I guess that's true. It's more the distinction of the paddy being formed by hand or being sliced out of a big roll of sausage.

load more comments (3 replies)
load more comments (5 replies)
load more comments (1 replies)
load more comments
view more: ‹ prev next ›