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Kind of a trend, the amount of youtubers who i had loved but their content became generic after gaining popularity is quite a bit, most drastic one being mrwhosetheboss, his uniqueness went down faster than ~~MH27~~ MH17

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

Marques Brownlee (a.k.a. MKBHD).

A few weeks ago he posted a new episode of his podcast with him and a few others. They talked about Nothing Chats and Sunbird, the iPhone getting RCS and the usual OpenAI drama. At some point Marques mentions the fact that iMessage with RCS will still be "unencrypted". Following that they ponder over why RCS wouldn't have this fabled encryption, such a weird thing that RCS doesn't support encryption from the get-go, and after brainstorming for a bit someone adds the information that it indeed will be encrypted in-transit, but not end-to-end encrypted. And what comes next boggled my mind: Silence ensues. No-one says anything. You only see the faces of four grown-ass tech influencers that are stunlocked and completely unable to process what this neverheard difference between encryption methods might mean. It all just ends with "I've been trying so hard to figure out what that means. I can't." And then.......then they simply move on, not even addressing for a second this knowledge gap and solving it right there on the spot. You can watch it if you want. What hurts the most is that Marques' co-star, David, the guy that looks the most confused, made a 1+ hour history-lesson type video a few months ago about the history of the internet and the importance of HTTPS encryption.

Now, if we're talking about visual quality and overall visual production quality, his videos were insanely enjoyable to watch. I also don't want to shame anyone for not knowing something and I understand that this is in part the consequence of an ever growing company at this point. The channel is still growing and has reached 18 millions subs. Him (and his team) also cover a constantly growing tech sphere, from phones to laptops, from e-vehicles to supercars, from tech politics to tech blunders. But coming from a guy that has been a "tech influencer" on YouTube for 14 years, a guy that over the years had the chance to interview Mark Zuckerberg, Elon Musk, Bill Gates and Sundar Pichai and surely had the chance to surround himself with experts on all sorts of topics, a guy that dedicated entire videos to Nothing Chats, the role of Quantum Computing in encryption or the dangers and potentials of the Metaverse, this kind of shocked me. I just couldn't take him seriously anymore and I hate myself for it. But it's like my grandma not knowing the difference between a normal call and a WhatsApp call, expect that he's been talking about tech for more than a decade.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Pretty much every car repair channel starts off good, then quickly changes to fixing exotic cars that nobody can afford.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (3 children)

VSauce. They used to be THE shit years and years ago. Their content now has been... Rather sparce and uninteresting.

I don't mind content that takes a long time. Ahoy and Lemmino are great. But VSauce just became... Feeling like a waste of time.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Seems like they never recovered after the whole YouTube Red exclusive stuff they did. I was glad they came back, but you're right, it just doesn't hit the same.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I have the opposite problem where Youtubers who I watch because I enjoy their unedited, off-the-cuff content keep deciding to put more effort into their channel and start producing videos that are scripted and edited well, which I find way less interesting and watchable than their stream-of-consciousness rambling was. WolfeyVGC is a big one. He theoretically has a second channel for low effort content but he rarely posts to it.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (4 children)

Veritasium. After he put that uncritical commercial for the self driving car company on his feed I couldn’t take any of his content seriously anymore.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I stopped watching after the "speed of electricity in a wire" video. When I realised a video about something I knew about was bollocks, it made me question every other video that taught me about something I didn't know.
Even if that had been a one off, how would I know? The trust is gone.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

some recent ones have been interesting, but yeah that ad really was a scummy move

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Linus Tech Tips.

They were pretty good in the beginning but the drive to create more and more output diminished the quality of the individual vids. Hence, the latest controversy.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (2 children)

To be fair, they dragged their feet on addressing it, sure, but then took massive steps to address it when they did. Top-to-bottom company-wide analysis and restructuring, limiting Linus' role and voice, a complete moratorium on releasing videos while they made plans to slow the release output, and refocusing on quality-control with additional community input. Totally get if you still don't like their videos, but I think they did everything possible to address everyone's concerns.

I actually like the WAN Show podcast more than their videos. I think you get a sense for their genuineness and passion as they discuss current tech news...

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (7 children)

Did Linus ever really apologize for the "we didn't sell the prototype we auctioned it" comment. I only saw him make excuses about miscommunication (blaming the company that lent the prototype). Or apologize to Gamers Nexus for saying they didn't do "real" testing?

I only saw a long corporate speak "we will do better" video.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Still waiting on the internal investigation results.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Never would have called him a favorite of mine exactly, but a channel I used to watch was Shadiversity. Had some interesting videos on medieval life and castles. These days he seemingly only does "let's test this wacky weapon" videos and has a terrible second channel where he whines about "woke culture".

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Tangential fun fact: the guy from "Shadiversity" and the guy from "Drawing with Jazza" are brothers. This is incredibly odd to me because I don't think that they look or act alike at all.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

has a terrible second channel where he whines about "woke culture"

That's disappointing. I've watched a lot of his videos over the years and didn't even know about a second channel or his beliefs.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Isn't that kind of a good thing?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Some people don't want to financially support creators who on record have said things like homosexuality is wrong and should not be encouraged. Watching youtube videos is financial support.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I used to watch iilluminaughtii several years ago, probably because I've been grabbing popcorn and enjoying watching someone dunking on multi-level marketing since, uh, 90s at least. Then I watched some video that was about some topic that I was kind of in middle of a deep dive, too (I can't remember which exactly. Elan School, probably?). And the video was bland as hell. And then I was like "yeah, most of these other videos are kind of forgettable shallow pap too".

...and this year we found out about the whole landlordy corporate town fancier backstabby financial abuser helicopter-CEO situation. And the content mill situation. And the plagiarism thing. Can't forget the plagiarism thing. ...I was like, "oh this all just makes sense now."

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

Illuminaughtii was getting pushed into my feed so hard right before everything went down that I've started to cast side-eye on anyone that the algorithm starts to push hard.

On the plus side, I found Cruel World Happy Mind because of all the awful stuff Illuminaughtii did to her.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Sabine Hossenfelder, used to love her takes on physics until she fell in the usual expert's trap of believing she can talk equally usefully about things OUTSIDE her expertise.

First trans care, which missed a few important nuances. Then autism, which had a decades-old perspective and was at best "not informative".

Then hoo boy Capitalism where she made a huge tangled MESS confusing and conflating markets with monetary systems and credit, all apparently based off half-remembered textbooks from 1950 using long-disproven historical claims.

A lot of criticism was sent her way. None was acknowledged, or apparently taken to heart. Repeatedly.

From skillfully presenting physics with a "explain it like I'm 5" style, she's now spouting any trending topic in a "explained by a 5 year old" style.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

This, JFC so much this. The trans care thing was a serious blow to my interest in her videos. That capitalism BS. That killed it dead. Didn't finish that video, haven't watched since. Byeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.

To be fair, I think her reputation might still be salvageable. But it would take sincere apologies, earnest corrections, and getting back in her ”lane” of experience. As a physicist she's fine, but not so much as a physician or politician.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

This was such a disappointment, I really liked her explanations of quantum physics.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Lock picking lawyer.

Used to be a channel about how locks works, how lock picking works, cool locks and shitty locks.

Now it's just a channel to sell his tools.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I stopped watching when he started covert instruments and immediately realized what every single future video would be like. I was right...

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Can't believe he wants to profit from his hobby. What a piece of shit.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Feels like it's mostly because there's not much to talk about anyway, whatever needed to be said has already been said in one of his 1.5k video. I start follow his channel before he established his company, it's mostly the same and it's really just about how he defeat the lock. He sometimes still talk about unique lock he find interesting though.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Yeah, those unique locks are the highlights I remain subscribed for. He used to dismantle locks more often, but at this point it'd just be more of the same if he kept doing that.

Might be a good idea for him to change up his format a bit to make fewer videos but have them be more of a deep dive into whatever locks he's focusing on, maybe do more of the old "now let's see if we can open this with the leg of a Barbie™ doll and half of an M67 fragmentation grenade" stunt videos. I remember he used to get more experimental with his approaches when there was back-and-forth with Bosnian Bill.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Eh, I would have to disagree with this, I have been watching him for a while and as far as I can tell the quality is the same the only difference now days is that he mentions his tools in the videos while picking the locks, so the videos didn't even really get longer.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Penguinz0. His content was garbage when I discovered him so I just avoided him but one day I got recommended his old commercial parodies and it was pure gold. His videos about Kate cooking were also great too. Nowadays, he's a drama youtuber. He scroll Twitter, read about a random scandal, do the bare minimum research to not sound like a fool and then make a video about it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

I'm on the same boat. But my "what the actual fuck?" moment came when (for those unfamiliar with it) YouTuber Idubbbz came out with a sincere apology for many of his videos that used extremely racist or ableist terms. While aware that his apologies did not automatically translated into being forgiven by the memebers of the groups he insulted, Idubbbz still felt it was important for him to apologize.

And in this situation, Penguinz0 just said that "Idubbbz shouldn't have apologized and it felt like he was exaggerating the whole thing". Way to inject yourself in something that did not involve him at all. Also, that really told me the kind of person Penguinz0 is: someone who dismisses others suffering when it's not his place to do so and someone who just goes off his own gut feelings alone.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Not exactly the question, but there's no way I can enjoy Internet Historian now that we know he's a Nazi.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Oh shit. He's a Nazi? Fuuuuck. I thought he was just a plagiarizer.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Unfortunately not:

https://www.reddit.com/r/youtubedrama/comments/18dotzf/internet_historian_is_a_nazi/

Hate to be the bearer of bad news, but yeah. Sorry for the reddit link but that's where a lot of the info is aggregated.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Wow. Someone over there is defending him being a fan of the Proud Boys guy because he claims the Proud Boys aren't a terrorist group (despite having been declared as such).

He says they're "very extreme right at worst", as if there's some sort of sliding scale on the right wing that eventually gets to "extreme right", "very extreme right", "terrorist organization" just naturally...and he isn't aware they crossed the line years ago.

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