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[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago
  1. “[W]e know and we know what a second Trump term would look like. It's all laid out in Project 2025, written by his closest advisers. And its sum total is to pull our country back to the past.”

'Trump has lied and said he doesn't know anything about it, even though tons of people part of P2025 are close to trump'

Straight into the bin you go NPR.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

Oh no, better open up the article to see how egregious the lies are:

Harris says that her administration wants to pass laws. But she did not mention that laws have to be passed by Congress! How dare she mislead people like that!

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)
[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 months ago (1 children)

There isn't even any substantial disagreement with what she's saying in this very article. Instead, it MORE than disavows things that Trump has specifically said, or tacitly endorsed, like Project 2025. Why in the fuck would you write an article essentially saying "Well, these statements are based in reality and facts, but you can't just say bad things without seeing it happen first."

YES, YOU FUCKING CAN. HE HAS SAID THESE THINGS.

God damn, NPR. Never thought I'd be downvoting something coming from you.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

I bailed when they couldn’t bring themselves to call “enhanced interrogation” what it is in the early 2000s. Fuck that.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

Good for NPR, showing us how it's done. I love to see this kind of holding to account rather than the unquestioning tribalism and sycophantism you get from right wing outlets.

You can vote for a candidate, and even support them - encouraging others to vote for them, while being critical of them as well. Just have to make sure it's the right context (not whataboutism or sealioning).

(Obligatory I'm-not-American disclaimer.)

[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Love how this article is trying to give Trump the benefit of the doubt. Fuck the media for trying to still normalize him and shame on you OP for posting this bs.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Wow NPR is being down voted....

[–] [email protected] -4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

They only care about sources that contribute to the echo chamber, all others are Russian propaganda, Russian bots, etc.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Nah, even good sources put out trash articles. And in this case, this is a garbage dump article.

Its a mealymouthed attempt at being CeNtRiSt and show that they hold BoTh SiDeS aCcOuNtAbLe. Problem is, they're bringing up the lamest shit, leading to this bullshit garbage to be used to show how both trump and Harris both lie.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 2 months ago

Yeah. It sure is great watching Democrats turn against the most benign, inoffensive, and liberal-friendly news channel in the country because they attempted the most basic level of neutral journalistic rigor (and even had to explain in their article the concept of neutral journalistic rigor).

Makes me super-optimistic for the future of democracy.

I can't wait for Democrats to accuse NPR of being Russian assets.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It's because this attempted neutral stance of "equal treatment" from NPR (and Politifact earlier) is massively benefiting Trump. People won't absorb the nuances between Harris' statements "lacking in context" and Trump's outright outrageous lies, they'll barely even read the article at best. So the effect is only a perpetuation of the sentiment "well, it looks like both sides lie so they're equally bad" which plays right into Trump's hands.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Did you even read the article? NPR also published the same format about Trump's convention speech which covered 162 false and misleading statements and is linked in the beginning of this article. Also, if you read the content of this piece, most of the explanations just make Trump look bad.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

12 in 40 minutes. Oh no. Better than the 12 in 40 seconds you get with the other guy...

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 months ago

Literally the point that the article opens with

It’s the role of the press to try and hold politicians to account for the accuracy of their statements in a good-faith way. The dozen Harris statements lacking in context are far less in comparison to 162 misstatements, exaggerations and outright lies that NPR found from Trump’s hour-long news conference Aug. 8.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 2 months ago

NPR - News Source Context (Click to view Full Report)Information for NPR:

MBFC: Left-Center - Credibility: High - Factual Reporting: High - United States of America
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