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This Google Photos popup (lemmy.blahaj.zone)
submitted 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
 

It appears every few times I open the app and the usual android back button doesn't make it go away, and there is no cancel button. What you have to do is toggle the toggle, then the button will change to "do not back up" and then you can press it. It annoys me how easy this makes it to accidentally turn on backup.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago

Disable the network access to the app.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

Do they use backed up photos to train Gemini? Could be they do and hence need all the user photos they can get their hands on.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 months ago

Honestly I'm done with Google Photos, I mean I get that it was free and that I shouldn't complain about that, but I already pay with my privacy, so why pay money and have my data abused everywhere I go?

I now have a home server (second hand mac mini m2) with PhotoPrism installed

[–] [email protected] 25 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Why would you use Google photos as your gallery if you're not using the backup feature? It's like the only reason to use it over a different gallery.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I'm always conflicted on this kind of thing, because for every person annoyed that it's asking there's a bunch that are complaining that they lost all their photos because their phone was stolen or something like that, and had no idea that they need to backup their stuff.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

I didn't realize that I had turned it on on my prior phone. Welp, my phone absolutely died one day and would no longer power on. I was really sad about losing my photos and videos, but then when I got my new phone I was happy to find out that at some point I turned on photos cloud backups.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Having a notice that doesn't occupy the whole screen and can be dismissed temporarily or permanently is a much better and less predatory solution to this problem. This isn't looking out for the end user, this is urging them into a system where the host can profit off of the user's data, that also happens to provide a benefit to the user.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Maybe, the average user really doesn't understand backups though and would be more likely to ignore it then.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

That's too bad for them, but at a certain point, people should be expected to have some level of understanding of the technology they are using. Giving people the information via a highly visible yet unobtrusive notification is more than enough to guide people that don't understand. If they decide not to follow the clear instructions then that's on them.

It's kind of like no child left behind. In theory, it's a good idea to make sure everyone is in a good position for success, but it's not good in execution because it negatively impacts more than it helps.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I was feeling smug that being on LineageOS and now GrapheneOS for almost a decade I've never seen this.

..then I remembered my fucking iMac seemed to turn on iCloud photo backup last week after updating and next thing I know all the obsolete iPads I get from work are telling me how my iCloud storage is full

Seriously this iCloud shit is on by default, predatory ass tech companies. I'm pretty sure I disabled it on that iMac but it's so possible that my own device can gaslight me that I'm left unsure. It's off now and I spent an afternoon removing all those photos.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I recently picked up an iPhone as a secondary device, pretty much immediately disabled iCloud and installed Mobius (Syncthing) so the photos get sync'ed over to my fairphone's SD card.

Now i'm second guessing whether it's actually disabled, or if I'm going to get an iCloud full warning in a couple of months....

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

It's ridiculous, its enabled by default on any new device you set up and sign in to. I could have missed turning off iCloud on my iMac, but I didn't have any problems before updating it, and then after I updated it I had iCloud full notifications, so I'm pretty sure it was off.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago

Rapist mentality

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I was surprised to find ads in my phone and realized it's shitty google again... Of course.

You can go into notification settings and turn off all notifications for this app, and problem solved.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I used to be annoyed by this. I'm running GrapheneOS so I denied Google Photos access to the network but it didn't stop it from asking every few times I started the app. Sometimes it even ignored my response and tried to connect to the network anyway.

I just uninstalled it and installed Fossify Gallery instead from F-droid. Haven't looked back since.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Ever had issues with FDroid getting stuck during updates, it would get stuck for me every day or 2 until I just uninstalled it. I don't install apps enough to bother with it, so I figured I'd reinstall it when I eventually need it again.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Use droid-ify, it's a much better fdroid client where you can enable Izzy's repository much easier

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

I'll try to give it a try, my current phone is shit, so I'm sure it played its part

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

Never had that issue

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

Ran into this asshole the other day, got me because I needed to show someone a contact card for them to scan. Fucking google.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

I used this feature for the longest time back when Photos storage didn't count towards your free 15 GB if you used the compressed option. And then they went and made it so everything counted towards your 15 GB, no matter what quality you were backing up at, and suddenly my account was using too much storage space to keep receiving email. I go into Google Photos to clear out some of the largest pictures and videos to get a few gigabytes back, and it tells me that if I do that it's going to also delete those photos stored locally on my phone. So now Google Photos is uninstalled because if I ever let it back on my phone it's going to delete all my pictures.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

Yeah, I had a photo album back when I regularly used Photos, and for some reason the photos would be backed up and the older ones would stop loading on my device? Which was a problem as I don't have any cellular data. It still happens for some reason, even though I no longer have backup enabled.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Google also has an app called just Gallery which doesn't pull this crap.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Asshole Google is doing asshole things. Before switching to Lineage OS this thing annoyed me so much. A few days ago I saw this prompt when using my father's phone and I couldn't believe that this thing is still happening. Google is so stubborn.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 months ago (1 children)

100% asshole design to fill up cloud storage and taking gmail "hostage" - pay for google one or all your emails will bounce back

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I believe they want to process photos and videos to train their AI.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

That was in the past, it was the reason they gave free unlimited backups. Now that they have enough data, once everyone got hooked to it, they enshittened the shit out of it

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

If you don't use cloud backup there's much better gallery apps

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