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These comments are more ANGRY about parking than about the housing crisis!!
Oh no, you have to park on the street and talk to your neighbors? I guess you should live somewhere else and good riddance.
Tbf part of the appeal of living in an apartment for me is that I don't have to talk to neighbours. I hate being perceived.
I'm not in Portland but my area has lots of cities and is a big metro. Not every city is the walkable kind that some would imagine New York city is like but we have our downtown areas here and there. Every fucking city close to the capital here does not have legit parking. Where they do, it's private and not included so you have to pay. It's insane. This is the fucking "developed country" can't put together that they build things so far apart that it requires driving and somehow, still don't build enough parking space for apartments or condos. WTF is up with that.
Native portlanders are often a bunch of big babies when it comes to city life issues in a way that suggests they've never lived anywhere else. Parking is laughably simple to find in Portland, it's fucking easy mode compared to any other city. Only core downtown is metered (Even then only business hours, and it's only a few dollars), and there are no alternate side parking rules to speak of. Literally it's easier to park in most Portland neighborhoods than it is in many suburbs.
Also most of these infill housing complexes are built close to transit, by design.
Imagine paying to have a car, and then also having to pay to not drive said car.
Homeless definitely have enough money to spare for such a necessity.
These people are quite a-social. How do they go through everyday life when buying groceries, working or doing leisure activities?
I'm not talking about transportation here, but about the social fabric. They're telling us they can't talk with people about problems if they can't unload 1.4 tons of metal in front of their housing? Sorry, but that's immature.
Behold! Trimet!
Are these multi story? if so I wonder if some of them could be tiny carage house style setups with minimal housing above a tiny garage/parking space, if nothing else it would be a nice place to keep bikes or larger items
I live in one of these without a parking lot in Portland. I take the tram to work lol, its a 1 minute walk there at most.
How many of ypur neighbors own cars?
And how do you bring that number down?
The street is full of them so probably quite a few but I just moved in so I can't say for sure. Mines on a short street with some single family housing and one apartment that has a gated parking lot under it. Its a bit unique so I don't think I am a good example tbh
These people have to be people living out in the suburbs of Portland. Out there sure you need a car but if you're in Portland proper most places have good transit access and are fairly walkable. I say this as someone who lives outside Portland proper but still in the Metro area who drives/bikes out here but when going into the city I generally take transit and walk.
This happens everywhere. I live in a very walkable area, and every time someone replaces a single family home with two townhouses the NIMBYs come out in force and whine about parking. They obviously only care about their own ability to park directly in front of their house, and fear that someone else might park there if more people move to the area.
Lol the guy complaining about an 800 square feet apartment. That’s 74 square meters and as big as our neighbors apartment who are a couple with a kid. Not luxurious but here in Germany that’s average middle class.
Our apartment complex also doesn’t have parking but walkable access to three tram lines and another three bus lines, so it’s not a huge deal at all but I guess you won’t have that access in Portland.
Oh my god, I’m in a place with just over half (40 sqm) that as usable space (there’s also storage) with my husband and a cat. It’s not great, but it’s fine.
That's exactly what car dependency looks like.
Portland, Oregon, of all places, should be very easy to get around without a car (it is one of the most bike-friendly cities in the States).
The fact that parking could be this difficult would immediately signal to me that maybe a car isn't the most appropriate or practical way to get around in my community.
Of course, I'm not sure what kind of cars these people are trying to park. Is it a Mini Cooper or a F150 Tank?
See that's the thing. Not only is this a transit-forward city doing transit-forward zoning, the pictured comments are also just inventing an imagined issue. It's actually not at all difficult to find parking in Portland. It's very easy.
The solution is making every turn of the key a massive adrenaline rush.
I totally agree but even the better part of the states aren't 100% car free. Which unfortunately puts us in this akward transition period where both parking and public transit kinda suck. That in turn does make it hard to win people over
That said my partner and I were able to sell my car and rely solely on her's after moving to the city. I basically never have to drive anymore. So it's definitely making an impact
Growing pains are totally understandable. Some people simply don't want to change or refuse to adapt. I can't be too empathetic for them.
But I wonder how truly real this problem is.
Like, do those residents have four families living under one roof with six cars to park? If so, they really are SOL. No place should have to accommodate that.
If ALL parking was removed, then they really need to contact their representative to find a remedy. Even if local businesses/malls could handle any overflow until this has been sorted out.
But it also makes me wonder if the public was ever consulted, or perhaps they were and the people complaining made not effort to provide input before these plans were put into motion. Who knows?
But car dependency really messes everyone's shit. That's for sure.
Genuinely think car bombs are the solution here, but id blow myself up a hundred times before getting anything to the street.
Lol...I commute to work and I don't have a car
Portland is facing a major housing crisis that was decades in the making.
Thanks to this recent reform, more people can now afford a roof over their head.
The woman in the video said she was very happy. She didn't complain about parking. Parking is a luxury when people want a roof over their head. Some of these comments are just insane.
Portland has OK transit but it does take much longer than a car for most journeys. I've used it almost exclusively for the past 2.5 years and I've only had a few times where I couldn't get close to my destination using it.
I used to live up in NE and it was pretty much always faster to just walk or find a scooter to get anywhere within a couple miles. If I wanted to get to the city center it was either a 15 minute Uber or 45 minutes via bus. Public transit downtown is great but we really need better service on the east side to connect the whole city.
Can confirm
They have a point though, i hope this gives portland extra reason to make the city more walkable (because there is obviously no space for cars)
I mean Portland is pretty walkable, I live outside the city but still in the Metro area and whenever I head into the city I take public transit/walk everywhere. There definitely is still room for improvement but it's definitely pretty walkable depending on the part you're in, especially compared to the suburbs.
As someone who's taken the train there a couple times I'd say the core downtown area is pretty walkable, but everywhere else def needs a bike or bus setup
I think that's fair, there definitely is room for improvement but atleast bus wise when I need to go somewhere in Portland I can take the bus or Max and get there. There definitely needs to be safety improvements and better infrastructure for bikes and pedestrians but transit wise it's pretty accessible. The main problem that does need improving is increasing frequency and the hours that transit runs. However route wise it's only once you leave Portland and go out into the wider metro area that the bus network starts to become very lacking.
I live in Portland now, lived in Cincinnati before. Public transit here is nothing short of amazing compared to back in Cinn City. It is entirely reasonable to live in PDX without a car.