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[–] [email protected] 39 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

Ahh clearly not premeditated. Lady clearly forgot she needs to put on a bodycam to film it all and some shiny shitstained badge to avoid all this nonsense.... she'd probably even get a job in the next county* over or a medal if she followed these simple steps.

*Edit cuz stupid autocorrect doesn't seem to think counties exist anymore

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

I think ultimately the sentencing is fine, the problem is that the criminal system failed at every step of the way... until it was time to punish her. He shouldn't have been let go in the first place. Since the justice system is known to handle harsher sentences to people of color, it's easy to be even more displeased with this result.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago

I think because they failed her, her actions are justified.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 months ago

Since she's going to prison, where her mental health will not be treated appropriately for the horrible things done to her by the person she murdered, I disagree, the sentencing is not fine.

I do agree that the "justice system" failed at every other step along the way. I just think it failed here too. She should be sentenced and appropriately confined, but not in prison.

[–] [email protected] 63 points 2 months ago (15 children)

What a shit article, it literally skips the most important part and makes it seem like it was self-defense when it was planned. What happened is grossly misrepresented.

This is from https://somethingsbrewingcafe.ca/linkpost/460154/ :

According to police, Kizer traveled armed from Milwaukee to Volar's home in Kenosha in June 2018. She shot him twice in the head, set fire to his house and took his car.

He deserved it and it's sketchy as hell they let him go when they busted him with home made kiddie porn. Regardless, it's illegal to take matters into your own hands.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (7 children)

It’s illegal to take matters into your own hands.

The article is about justice, not “legality.” The question is about the size of the gap (or in this case the gaping chasm) between what is legal in our society and what is moral.

Any rational agent in this woman’s circumstances should do what she did. I understand that doing the right thing is often illegal, which makes some people uncomfortable, but you know maybe that’s why the gap between justice and legality is so vast. That’s why our Supreme Court is a joke.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago

When the law and authorities fail to give you Justice, you go ahead and get it yourself. Just don't get caught.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago (4 children)

People don't get let go with child porn. That's a hard claim to swallow.

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[–] [email protected] 53 points 2 months ago (1 children)

it's sketchy as hell they let him go when they busted him with home made kiddie porn.

The fuck!?!

[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Ummm yea this girl deserves a pay day for doing their job for them not punishment.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)

She can deserve both compensation for suffering and punishment for taking her own action. This is premeditated and she didn't need to be there, but his actions clearly contributed negatively to her mental state.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Her morally good action was premeditated? Unthinkable!

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Obviously you don't have good morals. Vigilantism is immoral..

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Vigilantism is immoral

This is a category error. You wouldn’t say that “kicking is immoral,” or that “driving is immoral.” It just depends what you’re kicking and where you’re driving.

“Vigilantism” is the extrajudicial pursuit of justice. It involves breaking the law in some random corner of the world. However, none of that has any bearing on morality. The holocaust was legal. Slavery was legal. What the Supreme Court is doing now is legal. That has no bearing on whether it’s moral.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

“Vigilantism” means breaking the law;

That is an insufficient definition of vigilantism.

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 2 months ago (3 children)

The premeditation is unfortunately what got her. Now, if she accidentally bumped into him while driving a car, however...

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

She did the right thing with forethought and premeditation? How dare she!

[–] [email protected] -2 points 2 months ago

Thank you for your comment. It realy helped me decide on the clickbaiteness of the posted link.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 months ago

As usual, when the title asks a question, the answer is no.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 2 months ago

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