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What a fucking piece of shit company. What's the eta to fully learn Linux, and learn how to set up a dual boot os where Linus is daily driver but a local windows account is on its own drive for emergencies and gaming.
If you have a USB stick handy, you could probably be dual booting into Linux Mint within an hour.
No need to fully learn Linux before moving to that. You can do your research using Firefox on your Linux desktop. And by “research” I mean googling/DDGing things as you need to know how to do them. It starts to stick.
For windows users I actually recommend fedora kinoite, because it's immutable it's VERY difficult to break things and also you get the benefits of safer updates, and it's plenty easier to use.
So... why are people upset about this? I'd say it's about damn time. Having two settings apps is pretty ridiculous and it's honestly crazy it's taken them this long to ditch the control panel. I still remember people making fun of Microsoft's inability to drop control panel in the Windows 10 era. Is there anything special about the control panel or uniquely terrible about the settings app that would warrant this kind of negative reaction? Is it because of the settings that aren't available in settings? If they're preparing to drop control panel that probably means they're going to add whatever settings are still stranded on it to the new settings app, unless there's evidence that they won't do that.
they’re going to add whatever settings are still stranded on it to the new settings app,
Oh, sweet summer child.
The problem is that the settings app has consistently been a dumbed down, feature-sparse version of what was in the control panel for the bits it has replaced. Tweaks that experienced users have relied on for decades are simply missing in the settings app, forcing them to go back to the control panel
If Microsoft actually re-implemented all the knobs and dials in control panel then I wouldn't be so irritated, but we've been shown for the last several years that they only bother migrating the most commonly used settings.
I bet within a decade they pivot to barely any settings at all, claiming the released experience is the only experience you'll ever need.
means they're going to add whatever settings are still stranded on it to the new settings app
Lol, nope
What is the benefit? The name? Call control panel "Settings" and be done with it.
You could phase it in. "Control Panel Settings", then "CP Settings", then just "Settings" and Bob's your mother's brother!
Eeeeeh maybe not "CP settings"...
Shoulda thought that out a bit more...
Yeah dude, Club Penguin Settings is a whole different app.
Welp time to go back to Linux...
Hate to break it to you but Linux doesn't have the Windows Control Panel either. :P
I'll just open the play store and download the addon.. that's how this computer stuff works.. right?
My god, the amount of legacy crap in Windows.
They ought to just start over at some point.
On the flip side, this is what makes Windows generally very good at backwards compatibility. They do update the codebase for stuff, but still generally very backwards compatible with software and games designed to run on previous versions of Windows.
Fun Fact: Backwards compatibility is the reason you can't name a file or folder CON.
Yeah, that makes sense. If it's starting to bite them in the butt, though, maybe they should start relegating that stuff to emulation, if they can write a good enough emulator.
I don't know when. Maybe it's already gone by, maybe it's in the future. But there's probably a point in time when all of that backward compatibility stops being worth it.
Isn't that what wine is ?
I don't understand
Wine (wine is not (an) emulator) is a reimplementation of the windows api set. It's literally starting windows again from scratch.
Oh I see. Well if it has exactly the same API, if that API also has weird legacy stuff built in that hinder developers, then maybe not, but overall that does sound very similar, yes!
We need Windows NNT - New New Technology
How about Windows NEW ALL (in reference to Tantacrul)?
New all, everybody!
Is that a real concern?
While I haven't diven into their codebase, that kind of thing tends to severely limit what developers can do to improve the product, slow them down, etc.
Be it new features, deeper UX improvements, performance optimizations... Basically anything you want to do with your progress, generally speaking, it's going to get harder the more legacy stuff you need to deal with.
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