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[–] [email protected] 57 points 1 week ago (9 children)

Games are getting more expensive. Console prices are going nuts; the Playstation 2 launched at $299 USD.

Wages have been stagnant longer than I've been alive. More and more people are struggling to make ends meet let alone buy luxuries like video games, particularly the young because of our kleptogeriocracy.

Younger folks often use video games as a hangout spot, because young folks hanging out together in public is a felony now. So they play the same few games for tens of thousands of hours. Minecraft, Roblox, Fortnite, I think the crowd that spend their adolescences in Garrysmod are in the attrition phase. You've already got a copy of these games, why buy another?

A lot of studios are being closed because business major's gonna business. Fuck brand recognition or loyalty, fuck development talent, fuck community building, fuck long-term strategy, we can realize a gain right now by sowing half the planet with salt, so that's what we're going to do. So what is there for people to buy?

That noise you heard last week was Xbox's death rattle. One out of the three mainstream home console platforms is an outright stupid idea to buy now.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (9 children)

I bet you money right now that the next Xbox will be the best selling Xbox ever.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)

the Playstation 2 launched at $299 USD.

Not disagreeing with you, but with inflation that's about $558 as of this comment.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Inflation, yeah. The thing that has absolutely never been applied to wages?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] -4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I hear about these cases of inflation, like the fact a pack of gum cost 15 trillion Zimbabwe dollars, or immediately after WWII the German...reichmarke or whatever they called it, was so worthless it took a wheelbarrow full to buy a loaf of bread.

Where do I get a wheelbarrow full of uselessly inflated USD? It's not actually inflation, is it?

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Make a timeline comparing the rising cost of games, rising unemployment, addition of tariffs on exports from Japan and this. Notice a pattern?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago

Tariffs would likely have very tiny influence on this statistic since most video game spending nowadays is digital, and digital products are protected from tariffs since tariffs are only attached to physical goods.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

Maybe their parents have less money. Guess who's fault is it ?
Wall Street Journal that wrote original article have it in their name.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 week ago (5 children)

I'm just done with Capitalism in general. I got 1000 games, 200 of which are GOG offline installers. Those are burned onto M-Disc storage for the apocalypse. Cancelled all TV streaming, no buying games or books even. Nothing but food and bills now as I wait for it all to collapse.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

M-Disc

woah woah woah, Mr. Namedrop. What is this, now? 100GB RW Blu-rays? $57 for a pack of 6?

$57 for 600GB

$100 for a 4TB WD Red

the hard drive won't last as long

That implies it's powered. Would it last as long as cold storage? (with running disk checks every six months)

...this is so offtopic, but I must know.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You would have to weigh disk rot vs hard disk mechanical component failure.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Hard drives are affected by bit rot even when not in use. A disk check every six months would help, but is not a guarantee against data corruption or loss. M-DISCs are physically etched, and should last around a lifetime to a thousand years, depending on who you believe. The catch would be being able to read it in the distant future (in other words, if you're using M-DISC as a backup solution, you should also have a backup disc drive).

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'd need roughly 15-16 packs to do my entire archive atm, which is nearly $860.

...buuuut, I also see value in doing something like this over time. Say, I buy a pack once or twice a month, back up some data.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

Yeah. In my case, I'm mainly only doing this for irreplaceable data, such as documents and photos.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

For a WD Red? Get that shingled magnetic shit out of my NAS.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

I'm riding the hobo, external bus here, senior admin.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

M-Discs are just like Blu-ray storage. However, they are not re-writable, instead being physically engraved with a laser. They are marketed as lasting 1000 years. Get yourself a nice Bluray-writer and you're all set.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Ugh first millennials aren't buying homes fast enough now it's this darn gen Z and not buying video games and 12 different streaming platforms. Such spoiled generations

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Saw this stupid fucking headline on some magazine a coworker left behind today.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Maybe it's because all the good games are indie games that cost a fraction of the batshit insane prices these shady corpo outfits are pushing?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago

Young Americans can already barely pay for food and rent let alone luxuries like entertainment

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 week ago

how much money do young americans have to blow on video games? people are struggling. is it really surprising that, as disposable income vanishes, so does recreation spending?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago

Because they feel frustrated that they cant keep playing the games they paid with their hard-earned cash due to publishers destroying them.

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[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Somewhere out there is an article by someone who walked around a games conference and came away from the experience horrified that so much of the content he was seeing was from small indie studios who weren’t in a position to hire wastes of oxygen like himself, and was furiously nail-biting about what this would do to the state of the industry.

Related news is the authors of Dave the Diver having to explain that they are in no way an independent studio, and they do not deserve the award they just received for “best independent blah blah,” because “indie” has at this point simply become completely synonymous with “original and good.”

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

For me, its the long term viability of older games vs new ones. I can play older games on their original console or pc and they don't have always onoine functions that break the game when the server shuts down. Hell, I am having a great time re-playing nfsu2 on my og xbox. I don't find it any less fun than most wanted or some of the newer ones when I only have 30 minutes to play.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Survivorship of older games is a really good indicator that they’ll continue to be available in the future. Like you said, too many modern games are online only and turn to expensive nothingness when the servers are shut down.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I’m pushing 40 so I’m not young but I’ve actually been buying more games lately thanks to being patient and not rushing out to buy AAA games along with switching from console to PC, gotta love Steam sales. I just bought two games I’ve been wanting to play for $30.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

I'm a bit younger, though not a lot.

I all but stopped buying games because Epic and Amazon give so many away for free.

I've got like 500 free games that I haven't even installed once.

The only time I'd actually pay for a game is if it's a special one I want, and they've gotten few and far between.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago

I picked up three games for mad cheap that I've pirated for a long time. I'll give you money devs, if the price is right.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago

Exactly, picked up RDR2, AC Odyssey and Bloodborne for about $45 recently. This constant pressure to move people toward a subscription model only works if there's trust. Too much bullshit = shrinking sales

[–] [email protected] 84 points 1 week ago (5 children)

I'm sure it has nothing to do with shitty half baked $70 games

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

As a rule, I never buy games on release. From everything I hear, you pay twice the price to get an unfinished game in most cases.

I put them on my wishlist, keep an eye on the reviews and depending on those I decide how much of a discount it will require for me to actually buy the game. Usually I end up getting them at least a year later and/or at least at 50% off.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 week ago (1 children)

and the microtransactions inside them. and the underwhelming day 1 dlc.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago

with no new ideas and safe bets only.

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