That episode was a defining moment in my childhood
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Sometimes I think the future is bleak and nothing good with happen again. Then star trek shows me that there is hope, for... Humanity or something, yeah.
seems like one of those "won't be visible on a consumer tv" things
The low resolution will blur out all hint of anatomy, don't worry
At least not in 1992.
I didn’t 👀
Star Trek always had the better plot.
Opposed to what?
Mr Bean.
"There are no bras in space." ~ George Lucas
(Except 70s heavy metal metal ones)
"Now, who wants to draw straws to rip the duct tape off of Carrie?"
All the straws were the same length so they declared all are the rightful winners.
They went to work right after the (studio mandated) cocaine break.
Damn. I might need to start watching Star Trek.
[slight cough]
trekcore.com is a useful resource.
Ha ha, I just remembered that I go to that website for LCARS sound clips to customize stuff in my phone.
And now I'll be doing that later today!
I did a Google image search. Silly me.
The site doesn't have every frame, but most moments that one might want to use. Bare in mind, since there's no HD transfer of DS9 or VOY, you're just as well off on image search.
Sorry, for the quality. It was the only screenshot I’ve found. In this shot from “Man of the People”, you can clearly see the dress/nightgown Marina Sirtis is wearing is highlighting her nipples.
FYI, Sirtis has stated in interview(s?) that she was aware that she was the sex symbol for the show.
I wonder if any actresses were ever unaware of that role when they played it?
She was in a couple Cannon company explotation films in her early career. She has thanked the show for getting her out of that explicitly abusive part of the industry.
They made her wear a unique low-cut purple spandex suit for the first half of the series.
In the first season she was the only member of the main cast who wore the minidress variant of the uniform. Like they tried to bring forward the gogo dresses that Uhura, Rand and Chapel wore in TOS, and in an attempt by a Silent Generation geezer to be progressive and/or justify Marina Sirtis having her legs out, they had a few male extras wear the minidress uniform in the background as well.
Second to ~5th season she wore a collection of spandex jumpsuits, ranging from lilac to maroon but I also remember a green one that had kind of a flowy skirt to it. Then they used the whole THERE ARE FOUR LIGHTS episode as an excuse to have her wear a uniform. Sirtis was pushing for Troi to wear a standard Starfleet uniform, and having Captain Jellico awkwardly order her to was how they solved the problem in-universe.
I personally would have either written her as a civilian contractor, putting her in the same community as Keiko, Guinan or Mott, OR I would have put her in a uniform with a coat like Dr. Crusher since Troi was the ship's psychologist, we don't really see this but she should report to Crusher the way Barkley reports to LaForge.
I’ll be honest, I never saw the appeal. I enjoyed her character interactions, but she was not my thing.
Right? Like not green skinned enough.
A forehead ridge hits the spot.
Poor woman I remember in one interview she mentioned the outfit they gave her (up until Jellico made Troi start wearing a uniform) was so fitted that she couldn't gain a single pound.
I feel like what they did with Jerri Ryan was worse. At least for Deanna, it was in character.
Seven was a well-written character, but the wardrobe choices still infuriated me. That is probably one thing PIC got right.
Yeah from Both Drone to Socially Awkward Catsuit Lady seemed silly. Especially in a show with powerful women (e.g. as captain and as chief engineer).
Not as bad as Jolene Blalock.
I don't know, would you rather spend 4 entire years in bone tight fetish outfits too tight to sit down in and 4 inch heels, or 4 years in a relatively sensible jumpsuit or a jacket/pants ensemble but you have to peel to your undies and share a bottle of baby oil with a male castmate for 3 minutes?
Dude, T’Pol’s uniform was also a skintight catsuit. It’s like all the downsides of 7 plus the glitter oil.
At least Blalock didn’t faint because her costume prevented her from breathing
That’s both impressive and an incredibly low bar.
This is the outfit in question, which strikes me as more modest than any of Troi's various jumpsuits. The neckline is less open, the material is more substantial, and it doesn't really seem to fit much tighter than average women's clothing. I don't believe this outfit has a built-in corset the way Seven's catsuits did. I'm speaking as a man, here: If you gave me the choice between Seven's or T'Pol's costume, I'd choose T'Pol's. I'd look hilariously stupid in both but I think T'Pols suit would hurt less.
I haven't watched ENT yet, but I indeed have heard things about T'Pol.
There were a lot of scenes where characters, generally including T'Pol, would get "decontaminated" which meant rubbing each other down in their underwear.
There's only one episode where they stretch the scene for an uncomfortable amount of time and have her and Trip really rub each other (as far as I remember).
Edit: The scene https://youtu.be/O4J9UDw6oiA
I saw an early screening of that episode at a post-con event at a Star Trek pub in London.
When that scene came on a ripple of 'FFS - really‽' laughter went round the room, just because of how blatant it was.
Don’t forget that Connor Trinneer had to spend one entire episode in their underwear.
Enterprise was just a hornier show in general. There was that one episode where the crew were locked in their rooms (I think the Ferengi happened?) and Hoshi had to crawl through a vent, and she fell out of the vent and this somehow tore her shirt off so Malcolm opens the door to find her topless. Why did that have to happen? Geordi LaForge and Data didn't get shirtless anywhere near as often as Trip Tucker and Malcolm Reed do.
Once again: Jellico was the hero the Enterprise needed, not the one it wanted.
How could you forget?! Wardrobe stuck Troi into just a handful of memorably revealing outfits over those seven years.