This isn't the bad thing it sounds like folks. He led Biden by 5 and Clinton by 8 points in the male vote, on average. Having a lead that could be wiped out by the margin of error is nothing. It shows Harris is an even bigger threat than Biden or Clinton were.
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She's going to lose. She's a diet Republican just like Joe.
She has the closest percentage in 16 years of any candidate. In males, Trump led Biden and Clinton by at least 5 points. He has 1 on Harris. She is trouncing his ass.
Bruh that's within the margin of error. She should be blowing away someone as bad as Trump. This is Hilary all over again.
Surveyed < 2000 people and thats supposed to be a good voter sample of what country? Dominica?
They probably went and surveyed the Mar-a-lago neighbourhood.
2000 is really solid to achieve a reasonable margin of error. It's a pretty simple formula taught in any basic stats class.
Critically, that is assuming that the sampling is perfectly random sample of the thing being measured. Political polls in particular are going to struggle since participation is voluntary, motivations for poll participation differs than the both, different levels of anonymity, etc.
It's also far too small to be a reasonable example of voter opinion in a region as large as the US. If this was quantified with a region that the sample is from if might be better. But minimal sample size for making statements as broad as this just makes the stat garbage and exactly the sort of thing media should leave out of articles due to how biased a sample this small could be.
Jokes and (valid) worries about how many men are still supporting this dumpster fire aside... A poll like this has got to be setting off the fire alarms at Trump campaign HQ and I am giddy as hell to see it. The last time Democrats came this close to winning the overall male vote was 2008. If this margin holds out we could be looking at an absolute blowout (or at least as close as one gets in today's climate). Shame the Senate map means we won't get a 60-seat Senate, though...
Yeah, people are looking at this all wrong. These numbers are incredibly close. Trump about a 5 point lead over Biden in 2020 and 8 against Clinton in 2016. Now he has 1 point versus Harris in 2024? Dude is losing, badly.
What the fuck is wrong with men?
If you look at the all the elections of the last 28 years, men, especially white men, have strongly leaned Republican. If you look at 2020 and 2016 the only racial group that voted overwhelmingly for Trump have been white men. The only time men have not had a >1 point support of the Republican candidate were in 2008 and 1996. In 2008, Obama eked out a 1 point lead over McCain while in 1996 Bill Clinton was in the same spot versus Bob Dole, only one point behind.
What's wrong? Here's an example from this piece: https://www.cnn.com/2024/08/16/politics/black-trump-store-identity-politics
“Because of what happened in the Garden of Eden, there will never be an elected woman – whether she’s Black or White – that would occupy the White House that God would ever stand behind,” he said.
Not with real men. Harris is winning with real men.
I'm ok with co-signing this particular No True Scotsman fallacy.
And my axe
We really just need that twilight zone box that if you press the button you get 10,000 dollars but it kills the previous person who pressed the button.
Thank goddess for the 19th amendment.
My gender needs to step it tf up tbh
Wow. That is crazy.
How much were undecided, and how much were Kennedy supporters? You just know all those Kennedy nut jobs will come home to roost in Trump's column when he drops out. So it could be as bad as 55 Trump, 45 Harris - or with the error thrown in - 57 Trump 43 Harris.
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