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[–] [email protected] 36 points 9 months ago (9 children)

It's just bad faith reporting. It reminds me of Kotaku sneaking into conventions before they opened to report what games were there.

It lowers my opinion of The Verge, I used to think they were at least reputable with standards, but that's a real tabloid move.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Decent thing to do would have been ask valve for time when they want the article published

[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago (7 children)

They did ask Valve:

Though Valve didn’t respond to my requests for comment

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Too bad the game itself doesn't sound very interesting.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

It's a MOBA at heart. I don't like MOBAs, so I couldn't stick with it.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Oh but it is very very fun. Addicting even. Full time job and business owner and in the last 5 weeks I've logged 125hrs.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 months ago (1 children)

125 hours already?! No wonder I sometimes play against people that feel like they've been playing it their entire life.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

I have a lot of dota experience too and a lot of the abilities and stuff carry over.

Domt worry about being bad if you're having fun stick with it and you'll improve.

[–] [email protected] 142 points 9 months ago (7 children)

Valve gives you access to a game and tells you not to spew your mouth off. A gentleman's agreement if you will.

You spew your mouth off and valve takes access away.

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This is a non-issue of you ask me. A person, who happens to be a writer, got access to the game through a steam friend and was asked not to talk about it but thought they could just not agree to a warning and write about it anyway? I got access too and i didnt write about the game. I get to go back and play it today, they cant.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago (2 children)

So what. They already have their article and it will be out anyways within like two years latest probably. The value of talking about deadlock is much higher and valve profits from this advertising as well.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Except this is a game industry reputation ruined. It isn't just valve, why would any dev ever give the verge access again knowing that they will not only disrespect your requests but bitch and moan if you hold them to it.

It's a full rep killer. They will never have early access again for any company.

[–] [email protected] 42 points 9 months ago (3 children)

The so what is that this writer for the verge will likely never be trusted with NDA type pre-release access for any other games going forward, and this may even impact all of the Verge.

This isn't just a one and done kind of issue, this will be seen by the entire industry as a "can't trust that guy with pre-release access"

[–] [email protected] -5 points 9 months ago (3 children)
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[–] [email protected] 16 points 9 months ago

The Verge isn't pulling the article and they are currently backing their journo. The whole site is blacklisted at this point.

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[–] [email protected] -3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

"Leaked".

All leaks are deliberately orchestrated to fan the hype train.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago

Lol no definitely not all

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

And at the end of the day....it's just an ok game.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (3 children)

Have you tried it? Genuine question, since we're free to talk about it I'd love to hear why you think it's mediocre, so far all the talk is always hype so I'm eager for some less positive takes.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Preface that it is an early alpha build and everything can change.

Yes, I have played it. It is literally just a moba. It feels like they took Dota and slapped 5% of an fps to it. The matches can be way too long, and it suffers from the snowballing effect that if you don't get a good start, it is really hard to be effective. If you are 10 mins in a match and getting outplayed, you probably arent going to enjoy the remaining 20-30 mins. If you took Dota and modded it with 1st person controls, you'd be almost there with this game.

There is some good. The vertical elements do help, and the jungle aspects, along with destroyables, do help somewhat to make up lost ground in your build. The art design is pretty good for being alpha, and I do enjoy the map. There are lots of crisscross paths and hidden areas. There are also some map mechanics that are fresh, like 1 way viewable smoke screens.

If you don't like mobas, I'd almost guarantee you won't like this. It's not a new, genre defining experience, and it doesn't pull enough fps features to make it different. 4/10 as it sits.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Is Dota 2 with some shooter mechanics. If you like Dota 2 you probably like it, if you prefer a moba like LoL maybe you'll not like it.

I played a couple of matches and to me the match go for too long.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Wait, why would a league player not like it?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago (7 children)

They would don't listen to this person

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[–] [email protected] -2 points 9 months ago

Because is played more like dota 2 than league and so far as I know league players don't like much how dota 2 is played.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I have 125hrs and it's amazing fun, has a high skill ceiling, isn't an overwatch clone or anything remotely like that game.

It's a moba first third person shooter second. Basically dota with guns, or (a better) smite with a y axis (flying around, climbing, high spots, low spots) and guns.

[–] [email protected] 78 points 9 months ago (13 children)

I think the thing everyone is forgetting is that valve isn't stupid, there's no way they didn't realize you could work around accepting the (legally unenforcable) NDA, and it's open invite.

Valve 100% knows that keeping it "secret" is good for hype and was expecting this to happen at any time, and the nominal ban was expected, but nobody is gonna get sued either.

More people are talking about Valve's "secret" new game because of this than would be if they openly announced it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

Yep, tech and game companies use invite-only systems to generate hype constantly. Bluesky is another recent example.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 9 months ago

Yeah exactly. It's quite likely they didn't really blacklist The Verge anyways, just won't send them invites any more for this particular game. Best kind of marketing is hype marketing, and this is how you fuel the hype.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 9 months ago (2 children)

At the end of the day, the editors will have to answer to not receiving access to Valve for statements or tips moving forward.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

Valve barely talks to press anyways, in a very similar fashion as Apple. At worst, maybe The Verge won't get a Steam Deck 2 review unit ahead of time or something.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago

Honestly I don't think valve is as mad as you would think

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