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A friend of mine…didn’t vote. But she’s disproportionately impacted by these policies. Whenever she brings it up now I find I can’t respond. I don’t want to lose my friend, it’s important to me that we work through this and make better choices later. But it is so hard.
If the topic comes up again, ask her, "if you were really stupid, would you want somebody to tell you?" And no matter what she says, pokerface and change the subject or leave.
Talk about the next vote and the protests in between. Going over mistakes might be satisfying in the moment but it's not productive.
That said, I wouldn't hold myself back 🤷♂️
Sounds like a great opportunity for them to learn the lengths to which they're exploited and manipulated daily. Hopefully they take it.
They're not taking down the flags y'all are dreaming
They used to be a trump billboard and about 15 "fight" signs on my way to work. Now all there is just a store that just happens to also sell trump merch
No, they definitely do take them down. They might put them back up though when shit doesn't affect them.
There’s a guy on our dog walking route that put up several Trump flags last year. My wife and I actually wound up having an interaction with him because he was spying on us through his cameras and got mad that we referred to the flags as embarrassing and said that Trumpism was a cult.
By mid-April, he’d pulled down all the flagpoles and didn’t even take the flags off them, just laid the poles with flags wrapped around them in the dirt by his driveway.
In May I actually talked with him. Initially I had no intention of trying to be nice to him - he just had done something sort of shitty a few days before (encouraging his dog to bark at our dogs). I was going to be like “Look, if you wanna call me gay slurs over your ring camera, that’s fine, but don’t encourage your dog to be hostile to mine.”
But somehow he tied his dog to military service, and while I was fully prepared to connect the lack of a veteran license plate to his statement to call him a liar and a Reddit ninja, he fielded the license plate question and said that he’d suffered a TBI that resulted in an appreciable percentage of brain dying, and that made him unable to be rational when he felt any sort of threat or insult. So he didn’t use the military plates, because he’d had negative experiences with motorists while using them.
I don’t know if I believe that - it seems dumb on the part of the other motorists. But I’m not willing to keep pressing for the sake of picking a fight. I’ll throw a barb, but not over-extend myself. It’s just not worth it.
So I listened, and we chatted - for like an hour and a half. My wife left after a few minutes with the dogs. We talked about politics, the world, our community, and how fucked everything is. He supported Trump because of the 2016 (Obama) economy. He believes in women’s rights. He is conservative, anti-immigrant, and believes in stronger policing. I told him I believe in increased social support, so folks like him can get out of the VA benefits trap. I told him I think the way to stronger communities is through stronger schools and increased civic engagement - more pride, less punishment. He even asked if we’d be willing to help train his dog better, because he notices that ours don’t bark at other dogs, and don’t pull on their leads. I told him I’d have to think about it, and ask my wife, since she’s the one who really had the patience to get our dogs where they are.
We parted - not as friends - but certainly not as enemies. Just - neighbors with a better understanding of each other.
Champion! What a great story
Possibly even "Best of Lemmy" material. This story took me for an emotional ride, and the ending provided water to the wilting sprig that's left of my hope.
Meanwhile, I saw some asshole driving a cyberbrick yesterday. A lot of them are still proud of their identities as assholes.
I see a lot of them around here (Bay Area) and I always glare angrily at them.
When I spot them parked, I write "STUPID" on a post-it note and place it on the driver's side door.
Something like this on a post-in note would be a good, too. Just a little something to let them know their choice of vehicle was noticed and is not approved of.
I can't help myself but to laugh at those dumb ass dumpsters. They're even worse looking when they're moving somehow.
Mine just shot at me, ymmv
The predictable conclusion of fucking around.
God, that was a shitty night. The day after election day 2016 was horrible and I felt sick all day, but in 2024 it was a kind of grim numbness. I knew that what's happening now was coming and I felt so fucking powerless to stop it and hated my fellow Americans who voted for it (or didn't bother voting in states where it mattered) so much. Those last two things haven't changed.
You might feel better that they definitely legally cheated with gerrymandering and voter restrictions, but they probably illegally cheated too. Both Trump and Musk implied that, I believe them.
It's quite possible they fudged the numbers enough to get a win, but they definitely didn't fake having 80 million-ish people supporting them. Even if Harris had barely squeaked out a win, this would just keep happening every election. The massive support shows me that fascism here was inevitable. Our fascist hellhole has to crash and burn for us to have any chance of becoming something better from the ashes.
I'm only chiming in because I suspect that crashing and burning won't actually help much.
It's too easy for humans to disassociate 'other people', at which point, anything can happen.
Sure, crashing and burning might lead to a better system to work with, but that basically happened to Germany a while back and they seem to be struggling with a fascist rise lately... Seems like constant vigilance might be needed given our insecurities that drive us
There's definitely a good chance we'll go right back to this shit in a few generations, assuming we get out of it this time.
"The price of freedom is eternal vigilance."
Oh for sure, but we know 46% of people who voted are insane, dumb and/or easily manipulated. It's that "who voted" part that makes a difference. Fascism is never inevitable.
Democrats should've ran an actual leftist candidate.
FPTP should also be abolished so you lot aren't stuck with Dems vs Reps in the first place.
It was for us because of the capitalist dystopia our government chose to pursue. If Trump being elected the first time didn't convince people it's a bad idea, nothing would. They have to experience the horrors of it firsthand to hopefully get it through their thick skulls why it's a bad thing and the very thing that this country was originally founded to avoid.
Don't have the image, but
'Have the day you voted for'
Has the removing of MAGA ornaments in shame become a widespread phenomenon?
The few that I pass on my way to work are all still slowly fading in the summer sun.
I regularly pass by a house with a giant "He Won" flag with string lights in the front window thats been there since 2020.
Yeah this post reeks of cope. We're sleep walking through the second american civil war
Some is the same thing as all