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[–] [email protected] 13 points 9 months ago (4 children)

Everyone's joking here but I've owned and used an F710 since 2009 and they are ABSOLUTE CRAP.

I'm not even joking but their range is like 3 feet in the BEST conditions and their USB controller is proprietary and doesn't even work with OTHER F710s.

Anyone who's used one for more than a few hours knows this.

Why do I still use mine? Well the hand feel is amazing and the weight is perfect, but everything else is terrible and shouldn't even be used for gaming.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (5 children)

willfully get in a sub built by an idiot known to have said very weird things about safety

die

your „estate” sues the sub company for $50 million

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[–] [email protected] 43 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

This controller kept me in rocket league gold for months. I put it on eBay and some shmuck said they need it in a submarine but are on a budget so max can do is three fiddy. I just wanted to get rid of the thing

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I own 3 of those. They are not for PS or XBox but for mostly for PC gaming. They are not Bluetooth, they come with their dedicated USB nano receiver. I don't even trust them to win a championship in "F1 race stars", the arcade F1 game. The wireless is not reliable enough. They eat AA batteries like candy.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 9 months ago

but it seems likely that the Logitech controller—along with the five people on the sub—is gone forever.

Love it

[–] [email protected] 12 points 9 months ago (5 children)

Pretty sure the fly by wire system isn't why the beer can imploded.

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Oh yeah, the controller is clearly the one a fault here......

I mean, they clearly made this for an submersible, one made of carbon fibre specifically.

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 9 months ago (5 children)

Behind the Bastards did a pretty great two-parter on Stockton Rush, and how a) he completely shit the bed while ignoring all the super-deep-exploration experts, and b) how nature was totally telegraphing to Rush and OceanGate that this submersible is totally not doing it and will end in a spectacular tragedy, only no one else will be down there to watch but the fishes.

The controller wasn't a particularly weak link, though for safety's sake I'd want there to be a redundant spare, and it set up for plug and play. But higher on my priority list would be things like integrity monitors and an emergency way to open the sub from the inside (the hatch was bolted from the outside, and there were no emergency exit measures.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago

I have that exact controller. It sometimes randomly disconnects forma few seconds. It is a weak link.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago

Why are people still discussing this as if something wrong had happened?

They fucked around and found out.

These people thought they can make a life size toy sub and use that instead of a normal one, and that people with actual expertise are below them.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 9 months ago (3 children)

... How do you propose to emergency exit that sub at 1000 meters depth?

I'd say the bigger issue is that he used a carbon fibre body, a material which has great tensile Strength but sucks for this.

They way bigger issue than that is that he glued the metal rear section to the carbon fiber body. Both materials expand and contract differently under pressure, which is not what you want at 3 kilometer deep pressures, especially with multiple descends and ascends. That glue could never keep those materials together, that alone was a disaster waiting to happen

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago

They way bigger issue than that is that he glued the metal rear section to the carbon fiber body. Both materials expand and contract differently under pressure, which is not what you want at 3 kilometer deep pressures, especially with multiple descends and ascends. That glue could never keep those materials together, that alone was a disaster waiting to happen

And people usually consider this when building a barn, doing plumbing in a house. The scariest thing is how can someone who doesn't understand this make a submarine. Real Crassus vibes.

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 9 months ago (2 children)

To be fair, they all exited the vehicle pretty quickly at the time without it needing to be unbolted from the outside. Experts... pfft.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Such bad taste, sir. Have a reluctant upvote for that absolutely crushing wit.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Are you hoping to get upvotes for “crushing”?

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago (1 children)

pfft.

The sound made as they exited, spaghettified.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 19 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Could be worse. Could have used a left Joy-con.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Srsly, it's clear these guys didnt play video games with controllers growing up. Could you imagine getting left drift down there!?

They should have had an entirely redundant system on there; the controller being the first item on the list and from there to the motors.

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[–] [email protected] 41 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It's true, I bought one thinking it was cheaper and easier than a PS5 controller, and my couch imploded.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 months ago

Yeah but was JD Vance piloting the couch? Because that's basically a mercy suicide imho.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

I've owned this controller for years. Can confirm it sucks.

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