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Kyle Rittenhouse criticized Donald Trump. So conservatives said he's transgender. (www.lgbtqnation.com)

submitted 5 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I support my decision and I make no take backs.

Narrator : That, too, was a lie.

[–] [email protected] 68 points 5 months ago (3 children)

So Conservatives have been glorifying a Trans person, inviting them to speak, and had no idea this entire time?

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 5 months ago

The golden boy is a girl? So weird.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 5 months ago

Nobody cares about this dude tbh 😂

[–] [email protected] 249 points 5 months ago (9 children)

Last time I called Rittenhouse a murderer here, one of his inbred cult wanted to argue. Let's see if that happens again:

Kyle Rittenhouse is a murderer.

[–] [email protected] 83 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Kyle Rittenhouse is a murderer.

Who is Kyle? Did you mean Kyla?

Sorry, I will show myself out.

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[+] [email protected] -179 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (61 children)

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If we can't have a fact based conversation about anything then I don't know what the point is. As a leftie this type of rhetoric really saddens me. I thought we were better than the Maga crowd.

Does every act of self defense automatically classify someone as a murderer?

BTW, for the record I'm a leftie progressive. I'm not a conservative and I hate the Maga crowd. But the events that led to the death of those people that day was due to self defense.

This has been established through clear video footage and a lengthy trial with a jury of his peers.

Anyone who disagrees needs to establish they know the facts of the matter beyond news headlines or Twitter opinions.

The problem with this country today is rampant misinformation.

Can you demonstrate why it wasn't self defense?

[–] [email protected] 54 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (20 children)

Intent: They drove like over an hour across state lines to Kenosha in hopes of finding somebody to kill then placed himself in harms way by wandering into a group of people.

The goal was always to kill people and thats what makes it murder.

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[–] [email protected] 79 points 5 months ago (1 children)

This is the "The Civil War was about State's Rights" argument and I need a meme of a duck saying "Why was Rittenhouse there in the first place?"

WHY WAS HE THERE IN THE FIRST PLACE?!

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[–] [email protected] 71 points 5 months ago (3 children)

OJ Simpson also wasn't convicted.

It seems kind of obvious Rittenhouse went looking for a situation he could put himself in so that he could shoot somebody. That's murder if you can prove it, but good luck proving it.

[+] [email protected] -32 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (8 children)

Well, yes. Rittenhouse inserted himself into a situation he had zero business being in, with a weapon he was legally not allowed to have, and those actions put him in the danger that he then, legally speaking, defended himself from.

He's an idiot, a terrible person, and 100% at fault for what happened. But not a murderer since he was acquitted, and words mean things.

You idiots can downvote me until the end of time if doesn't make me less correct

[–] [email protected] 38 points 5 months ago

So was Al Capone’s only crime tax evasion?

[–] [email protected] 21 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

Just to nitpick, OJ was acquitted but still a murderer. The word means you killed someone ~~in cold blood~~ on purpose, not that you got a guilty verdict.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

That's due to corrupt cops manipulating evidence. The judicial system acted accordingly when presented with the proof that the evidence could no longer be trusted.

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (13 children)

Let’s say a person doesn’t like certain other types of people (be it due to race, religion, political views, or whatever), and that person also glorifies violence against those types of people and they glorify gun violence in general.

Let’s also say this person knowingly and willingly (and possibly illegally) puts themselves in harm’s way, while carrying a gun, amongst those same certain types of people.

Then they get into a situation where they have to use “self defense” in order to escape harm from those people. Luckily they had that gun with them!

Was it legally “self defense?” Yes, apparently. Could it be argued that it was also “hunting” disliked group of people, as if for sport? Yes.

Did Rittenhouse successfully use a self defense plea to get away with murder? Some would argue that he did.

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[–] [email protected] 63 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I'm a leftie progressive (...) But the events that led to the death of those people that day was due to self defense.

So you're not a willfully blind idiot for party political reasons. I wonder what convinced you then..

This has been established through clear video footage and a lengthy trial with a jury of his peers

Ah, an ignorant faith in the veracity of doctored or otherwise misleading out of context footage and the integrity of the US legal system 🤦

Can you demonstrate why it wasn't self defense?

Dude brought an AR-15 to a word fight. In another state. After telling friends that he wanted to shoot BLM protesters. He then harassed peaceful protesters until some of them tried to stop him. He then murdered the people trying to stop him.

[+] [email protected] -30 points 5 months ago (2 children)

As someone who followed the trial closely, the evidence couldn't be more clear.

But if all you're going to do is handwave it away because of conspiracies that

The trial was rigged
The video was doctored

Then I don't know what to discuss. This rhetoric identical with Maga republicans that claim the election was stolen and Hillary Clinton is harvesting the endocrine glands of children.

If we can't have a fact based conversation about anything then I don't know what the point is. As a leftie this type of rhetoric really saddens me. I thought we were better than the Maga crowd.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 5 months ago (3 children)

But if all you're going to do is handwave it away because of conspiracies

That's categorically not what I'm doing.

This rhetoric identical with Maga republicans that claim the election was stolen and Hillary Clinton is harvesting the endocrine glands of children.

Fuck off with that horseshoe theory bullshit. You're clearly lying about being a leftist progressive in order to lend your credulity a false veneer of impartiality.

If we can't have a fact based conversation about anything

Clearly we can't, but I'm not the one responsible for that.

As a leftie this type of rhetoric really saddens me. I thought we were better than the Maga crowd

Big Dean Browning vibes.

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[+] [email protected] -46 points 5 months ago (3 children)

It wasn’t a word fight, both sides had devolved to rioting by this point.
It was his home state through his father.
No records show him harassing “peaceful” protesters, but the first man that was shot’s girlfriend testified he had reached for Rittenhouses weapon, the second guy was attempting to knock him over with a scateboard, and the third guy was pointing a gun at him.
It was self defense according to the law, which we can argue is or is not murder, in which case even if it is self defense is a good thing.

[–] [email protected] 44 points 5 months ago (1 children)

You don’t inherit a home state, lol

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[–] [email protected] 103 points 5 months ago (4 children)

I summoned one. Again.

How disappointing.

[+] [email protected] -64 points 5 months ago (17 children)

If we can't have a fact based conversation about anything then I don't know what the point is. As a leftie this type of rhetoric really saddens me. I thought we were better than the Maga crowd.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Nobody wants to have a conversation with you. It was just a check if people like you are still around. You confirmed. No more conversation is needed. Nobody is required to waste their breath on you.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 5 months ago (1 children)

r/AsABlackMan front page has your twitter post

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago

So I don't want to be mean, I have no idea who that is, but what the hell is with the painted-on eyebrows? Seriously, go back and look at the thumbnail. You see it now. What is that? What thought process occurred where "yeah, this is what I want" was the conclusion?

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