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I have read a TON of contemporary SciFi authors. I really enjoy

Stuff I like

Iain M. Banks

I liked the Martha Wells Murderbot books.

I loved We Are Legion, We Are Bob and have read all the books by him.

I like Alastair Reynolds. I liked the Poseidon's Children trilogy better than Revalation Space Series (but I liked that too).

I really like G. S. Jennsen - even though she's cheesy. I think I like her because of her progressive attitude and powerful female characters.

I like Charles Stross, but I didn't like Accelerando. I like his other books a lot.

I liked A Memory Called Empire and A Desolation Called Peace by Arkady Martine.

I like Corey Doctorow, sometimes. Walkaway was good.

I like Daniel Suarez, most of the time for similar reasons.

I REALLY liked the Nexus series by Ramez Naam.

I liked the Red Rising books by Pierce Brown and I've really been enjoying the Sollan Empire books by Christopher Ruocchio, which I think are similar and even better.

I like Adrian Tchaikovsky and really liked The Final Architecture books and Doorways to Eden.(I didn't get that into Children of Time though).

I usually like Neil Stephenson. (The Fall or Dodge In Hell is quite a tedious book).

I've liked everything I've read by Verner Vinge.

I liked Hyperion like everybody else. Unlike everybody else, I think I liked the Endymion books even better.

I read some Ken MacLeod (the first Corporation Wars book) and it was fine... but I haven't felt like going back.

I REALLY enjoy John Scalzi, though I found the Old Man's War books started to get stale after a while. It's high calorie, low nutrition brain candy, but I know that going in and it passes the time.

I really liked Derek Kunsken's Quantum Magician books. And started reading his prequel series, set on Venus, and I couldn't really get into it.

I enjoy Space Race books like Erik Flint / Ryk Spoor's Boundary series, Saturn Run by John Sanford and Delta V by Daniel Suarez.

I love the Expanse.

I find Kim Stanley Robinson hit or miss. I really enjoyed the Mars books and The Years of Rice and Salt was fun (though a little tedious). 2312 drags and drags and nothing happens and Aurora is the same AND also sad.

I liked Permanence by Karl Schroeder. It could have used a little more... conflict? I had this same problem with Becky Chambers. The characters are all too well intentioned and the dramatic tension suffered a little.

I read all the Star Kingdom books by Lindsay Buroker. I thought they were a super fun adventure that just kept delivering from the beginning of the series to the end, even if it was clearly aimed at a more YA demographic.

I REALLY liked Velocity Weapon and the sequels by Megan O'Keefe. I found her Steam Punk series much less impressive. I've been meaning to try her galactic empire series, but I haven't quite been in the mood to start it.

I read Sue Burke's Semiosis Duology. I wasn't expecting to like it but I really did! The physical science aspects were a little softer than I would have liked, but the biological science was really cool, as was the anarcho-pacifist political philosophy.

I read Yoon Ha Lee's Ninefox Gambit and the sequels. I thought they were really fun, I wish they'd explored Calendrical technology more.

I thought the Neo G books by KB Wagers (A Pale Light in the Black and sequels) were good. Her characters are great. But again, very light on the sciences and technology. I'm in the mood for something harder. Also, not realistic that the champion hand to hand fighter in the entire Earth space military is a 110 pound woman, but I just pretended she's cyber enhanced.

I just finished the Wormwood trilogy (Rosewater and sequels) by Tade Thomson. They were great.

Stuff I Don't Like

Orson Scott Card did not age well, unlike Timothy Zahn, who's gotten a lot more progressive in his story telling in the last two decades.

I don't like Niel Asher. His in your face Libertarianism and conservative ideology annoys me, which is too bad because other than that he's a good story teller.

I find Peter F. Hamilton hit or miss for the same reason. But I really liked Pandora's Star.

I find AG Riddle hit or miss. I like his thought experiments, but he doesn't really care if his stories / characters are logically consistent. Ramez Naam and Daniel Suarez do what Riddle does but WAAAY better.

I didn't like Blindsight. I know, this makes me some kind of heretic. I just didn't find the idea of such a dysfunctional crew being entrusted with such an important mission believable.

I couldn't get into Ann Leckie. I WANTED to like it, but I just didn't find her writing very engaging. I've put the physical book down once AND turned the audio book off on a road trip.

I did not like Tamsyn Muir.

I did not like the Three Body Problem, although I see the appeal and it's nice to read something by a non western author. I found the pro Chinese politics a little too heavy handed.

I cannot get into Greg Egan. I find his writing style way too obtuse. Reading is Egan is like having a PHD in mathematics and a PHD in quantum physics, then going to Burning Man and doing 16 hits of acid.

I finally got around to trying The Long Way To A Small Angry Planet and I could NOT get into it. I agree with reviewers who complain nothing interesting ever happens.

People keep recommending Mary Robinette Kowal, but something about the alternate history just doesn't grab me.

People keep recommending Ted Chiang. But I don't want short stories (Murderbot somehow managed to be an exception). The longer the better.

People have recommended the Last Watch by J. S. Dewes, but others have told me things about the book that makes me think I won't like it. Standing guard at the edge of the universe makes zero sense, I think by proposing it's possible you lost me. Edge of the galaxy... Maybe, with 10 septillion robotic war ships. But edge of the universe? I think I'm out. If you know something I don't about this book, feel free to say so.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I didn't see Pratchett on the list, even if you have been through the Diskworld before, the re-reads often reveal things you missed.

I'm not as well read as you, so have no idea if that actually matches your taste.

Another (older though) lesser known series is the Dragonriders of Pern. Great if you like to follow a lot of characters (in their own mini series) that interact over an 80 year main series. Starts as fantasy, becomes sci-fi (With dragons!)

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I got you comrade.

Luna: New Moon by Iain McDonald. It's most often described as "Game of Thrones in space", which does convey the general tone of warring families well enough. But to a sci-fi fan, a better description would be "A deconstruction of The Moon is a Harsh Mistress." McDonald basically tears apart the libertarian politics of Heinlein's book by imagining what a purely libertarian society would actually look like; the conclusion being, it would be fundamentally feudal. Hence, the Game of Thrones style politics of warring great houses / corporations.

What makes the books a worthy recommendation though is that they're just incredibly well written. As well as constantly interrogating social and political questions, they're note perfect character studies, with a huge cast of characters, every one of whom is richly drawn with layers upon layers of depth and complexity. It's the kind of book where it's hard to even figure out who the "villains" are because every characters' worldview, intentions and desires are so well thought through. Instead you simply have a group of believable human beings cast into a complex situation, as the reader watches conflict inevitably arise from their differing goals and intentions.

And if all of that sounds very dry, the remarkable part is that it really isn't. McDonald has plenty of fun with his premise, giving us a world of genetically engineered assassin flies, combat drones, dust bikers, werewolves, free-running water thieves, PhD ninjas, courtroom duels, and giant dicks drawn in lunar regolith.

(Yes, I am basically now just the guy who recommends this one book series every time, but I'm gonna keep doing it until more people know about it, because they're just that damn good).

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I see a distinct lack of Neal Asher... Start with Gridlinked

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The Futurological Congress by Stanisław Lem

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Some suggestions

  • Saturn Returns by Sean Williams
  • the Uplift universe by David Brin (Sundiver, Uplift war, Uplift trilogy etc)
  • Existence by David Brin
  • Helix and Helix Wars by Eric Brown
  • the Shoal Sequence by Gary Gibson
[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I didn't see you mention these authors, but maybe because your cutoff date looks to be around 1989:

  • Wild Seed- Octavia E Butler
  • The Left Hand of Darkness- Ursula K LeGuin
  • Dhalgren- Samuel Delaney
  • Book of the New Sun- Gene Wolfe
  • A Scanner Darkly- Philip K Dick
  • Cat's Cradle- Kurt Vonnegut

Not exactly always considered sci fi, but maybe sci fi adjacent:

  • The Terror- Dan Simmons, author of Hyperion, seems to be free of his politics
  • The Yiddish Policemen's Union- Michael Chabon
  • Gravity's Rainbow- Thomas Pynchon
  • Fictions- Jorge Luis Borges
  • Machine of Death- collection of short stories from various authors
  • Infinite Jest- David Foster Wallace
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

The Swarm by Frank Schätzing, I was glued to the book, A Canticle for Leibowitz is nice, Project Hail Mary was awesome, Martian too

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Ahh Ian Banks.... There is only one book left and I fear reading it, which would complete the culture cyclus for me and thus my source of hope for humanity :D

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I need you to answer them

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Which one do you have left

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

The most recent one... The hydrogen sonata

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I recommend The Interdependency trilogy by John scalzi. I liked it a lot, though you have to live with some deus ex machinas. But the political plot, most ideas, and most of all the characters are very fun.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I laughed a lot reading that series. Lots of profanity, but really fun.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

If you've not dipped into William Gibson (Neuromancer) and several trilogies since), I've enjoyed all that I've gotten to so far. (Wanna 're-read' the 'Bridge Series' in audiobook.)

(I'm also a fan of Stephenson, Dan Simmons, Charles Stross, and that ilk.)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I've read most things Gibson has written. Interested in things written more recently right now.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

All these authors and no one has mentioned the Known Space series by Larry Niven!

Personally I would start with Protector, then Crashlander, then head into Ringworld and the rest.

It's a little dated in places and he's not great at writing women, but it's got some good heavy sci-fi ideas in. The Ringworld megastructure is a fun thing to contemplate.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I did say "Contemporary." Love Niven.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If you're open to trying fantasy (not far off from sci-fi), the Redwall series might be of interest.

Although it was originally aimed at young teens, it's a very enjoyable series for adults too. Some of the best writing I have ever come across.

Good luck with your search!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I devoured Redwall 30 years ago. I remember they started feeling pretty repetitive and I read one in my early 20s where there was a weasel who was MAYBE good, but then he turned out to be bad and I was like "OK, I'm done." I know he's written a bunch since then, but I feel like as I've aged I've gotten less interested in fantasy and MORE interested in SciFi. Not 100% sure why. I read a fantasy book every year or so.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Consider giving Steven Erikson a try. Malazan Book of the Fallen is huge and time-consuming, but his style of writing is worth the effort in terms of story and character development. His Willful Child series is Sci-Fi and might provide a way of sampling his very unique style without diving into Fantasy.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That is quite the well-assembled list. All of the context is helpful for everyone to make suggestions. Also, your comment about Greg Egan is pure awesome.

Gareth L. Powell's "Embers of War" series was excellent. Scalzi's "Starter Villain" had me laughing painfully hard at points.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I enjoyed Started Villain a lot. Haven't read Embers of War, but I've looked at it before. Thanks for the recommendation.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Dungeon Crawler Carl.

Its possibly the most original stories in a long time and one of the best audiobooks Ive ever heard.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You're the second person to suggest this. I didn't know it existed. I fascinated.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I align very much with your tastes, here are some you didn’t mention that I thoroughly enjoyed.

  • Frontlines by Marlo Kloos. Military Sci-Fi, IMO better than both Old Man’s War and Expeditionary Force
  • Palladium Wars, also by Kloos. More good military sci-fi
  • Frost Files by Jackson Ford. Rollicking good time.
  • Doors of Sleep by Tim Pratt. Superb portal sci-fi/fantasy. Skip the follow up.
  • Mickey7 series by Edward Ashton. Clone hijinks.
  • The Passage by Justin Cronin. Post apocalyptic sci-fi vampires.
  • 14 by Peter Clines. I don’t want to say anything more than sci-fi apartment building. Give it a try.
[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Thank you! This is exactly the kind of response I was looking for!

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Drew Hayes: Anything he wrote but Superpowereds are about 30 hours on average and there's 4. Phil and Kaja Folio: Girl Genius.

I also don't see The Martian on this page so adding it as a suggestion.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I have a hard time finding books to read anymore as well. So many predictable series books without any character depth or significant plot.

Few older ones if you haven't read them yet.

"This Alien Shore" by C.S. Friedman. Make sure you are well caffeinated before reading it. It has a complex plot were details matter. Her "The Madness Season" stands out as well.

"Parafaith War" L.E. Modesitt Jr. If you have any experience with Mormons it will make more sense.

"The Crystal Singer" series by Anne McAffrey. It's a bit dark at times but at least it's a decent story.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

The Broken Earth trilogy by N.K Jemisin. Though there's a good chance you've read it as the trilogy won three peat Hugo awards. Progressive attitude and powerful female characters fits the bill here.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

The Lock In / Head On and Dispatcher series from Scalzi are pretty good.

The entire Murderbot Diaries series.

The first Hell Divers book was good (I haven't read the rest yet)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Expeditionary Force by Craig Alanson is one of my recent favorite scifi series. The voice acting is great in the audiobook.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Filthy Monkeys

If you loved Exforce check out Dungeon Crawler Carl if you havent already.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

DCC has been a blast. 5 hours remaining in the Bedlam Bride audiobook at the moment.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

The Red Dwarf book series, I think there's seven in all

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Hugh Howey and Jack McDevitt are a couple that come to mind that I don't see on your list.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Sorry, not much help as you've read more widely than me, but you like the stuff I like and don't like stuff that I don't like, so you've given me a lot of books to add to my list :)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Ok. I like a lot of what you do (but love Neal Asher's space operas) and will recommend Ian Mc Donald, and if you are open to comics, Black Science or Lazarus.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'll recommend David Wong's Zoey Ashe books, similar to Scalzi in style, and I would say similar to Snow Crash in world build, but way less formal. Futuristic Violence and Fancy Suits was terrific. Zoey Punches the Future in the Dick less so but still grand. And now I see a third one that escaped my attention and I'll have to get on my phone for this week's travels.

His John Dies at the End series is also incredible, but not quite the scifi you're looking for. More Buffy/Supernatural style, well, in a Trey Parker/Matt Stone vein of Buffy, lots of dildo jokes.

And though it's not scifi I'll recommend the Gentleman Bastards series by Scott Lynch. Oceans 11 conmen caper in a LOTR world with dialogue by Quentin Tarantino. I recommend it to everyone, whenever I am given an opportunity.

Edit: And Peter Clines Threshold and EX series are both great. EX is a superhero spin on zombies, and threshold is a nice scifi-eldritch romp.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I'm listening to Project Hail Mary right now. The narrator isn't great at female voices but there's one character that, along with some studio effects, makes the experience super unique and possibly better than reading. It's hard to describe without spoilers.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I recently liked To Sleep in a Sea of Stars. It's no masterpiece, but it's an enjoyable sci-fi. Not as philosophical like many of the books you've mentioned and Paolini definitely has some annoying quirks in his storytelling, but overall it's good.

Don't ever read the prequel, though, that was some hot garbage.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Have you read the uplift universe books by David Brin?

Classics, but I did read them a long time ago. No idea how they hold up.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Have you read the Foundation series yet? I found the first book (chronologically written, not the universe timeline) a challenge to follow initially, but once I got into Asimov’s style I found the whole series quite enjoyable.

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