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I have read a TON of contemporary SciFi authors. I really enjoy

Stuff I like

Iain M. Banks

I liked the Martha Wells Murderbot books.

I loved We Are Legion, We Are Bob and have read all the books by him.

I like Alastair Reynolds. I liked the Poseidon's Children trilogy better than Revalation Space Series (but I liked that too).

I really like G. S. Jennsen - even though she's cheesy. I think I like her because of her progressive attitude and powerful female characters.

I like Charles Stross, but I didn't like Accelerando. I like his other books a lot.

I liked A Memory Called Empire and A Desolation Called Peace by Arkady Martine.

I like Corey Doctorow, sometimes. Walkaway was good.

I like Daniel Suarez, most of the time for similar reasons.

I REALLY liked the Nexus series by Ramez Naam.

I liked the Red Rising books by Pierce Brown and I've really been enjoying the Sollan Empire books by Christopher Ruocchio, which I think are similar and even better.

I like Adrian Tchaikovsky and really liked The Final Architecture books and Doorways to Eden.(I didn't get that into Children of Time though).

I usually like Neil Stephenson. (The Fall or Dodge In Hell is quite a tedious book).

I've liked everything I've read by Verner Vinge.

I liked Hyperion like everybody else. Unlike everybody else, I think I liked the Endymion books even better.

I read some Ken MacLeod (the first Corporation Wars book) and it was fine... but I haven't felt like going back.

I REALLY enjoy John Scalzi, though I found the Old Man's War books started to get stale after a while. It's high calorie, low nutrition brain candy, but I know that going in and it passes the time.

I really liked Derek Kunsken's Quantum Magician books. And started reading his prequel series, set on Venus, and I couldn't really get into it.

I enjoy Space Race books like Erik Flint / Ryk Spoor's Boundary series, Saturn Run by John Sanford and Delta V by Daniel Suarez.

I love the Expanse.

I find Kim Stanley Robinson hit or miss. I really enjoyed the Mars books and The Years of Rice and Salt was fun (though a little tedious). 2312 drags and drags and nothing happens and Aurora is the same AND also sad.

I liked Permanence by Karl Schroeder. It could have used a little more... conflict? I had this same problem with Becky Chambers. The characters are all too well intentioned and the dramatic tension suffered a little.

I read all the Star Kingdom books by Lindsay Buroker. I thought they were a super fun adventure that just kept delivering from the beginning of the series to the end, even if it was clearly aimed at a more YA demographic.

I REALLY liked Velocity Weapon and the sequels by Megan O'Keefe. I found her Steam Punk series much less impressive. I've been meaning to try her galactic empire series, but I haven't quite been in the mood to start it.

I read Sue Burke's Semiosis Duology. I wasn't expecting to like it but I really did! The physical science aspects were a little softer than I would have liked, but the biological science was really cool, as was the anarcho-pacifist political philosophy.

I read Yoon Ha Lee's Ninefox Gambit and the sequels. I thought they were really fun, I wish they'd explored Calendrical technology more.

I thought the Neo G books by KB Wagers (A Pale Light in the Black and sequels) were good. Her characters are great. But again, very light on the sciences and technology. I'm in the mood for something harder. Also, not realistic that the champion hand to hand fighter in the entire Earth space military is a 110 pound woman, but I just pretended she's cyber enhanced.

I just finished the Wormwood trilogy (Rosewater and sequels) by Tade Thomson. They were great.

Stuff I Don't Like

Orson Scott Card did not age well, unlike Timothy Zahn, who's gotten a lot more progressive in his story telling in the last two decades.

I don't like Niel Asher. His in your face Libertarianism and conservative ideology annoys me, which is too bad because other than that he's a good story teller.

I find Peter F. Hamilton hit or miss for the same reason. But I really liked Pandora's Star.

I find AG Riddle hit or miss. I like his thought experiments, but he doesn't really care if his stories / characters are logically consistent. Ramez Naam and Daniel Suarez do what Riddle does but WAAAY better.

I didn't like Blindsight. I know, this makes me some kind of heretic. I just didn't find the idea of such a dysfunctional crew being entrusted with such an important mission believable.

I couldn't get into Ann Leckie. I WANTED to like it, but I just didn't find her writing very engaging. I've put the physical book down once AND turned the audio book off on a road trip.

I did not like Tamsyn Muir.

I did not like the Three Body Problem, although I see the appeal and it's nice to read something by a non western author. I found the pro Chinese politics a little too heavy handed.

I cannot get into Greg Egan. I find his writing style way too obtuse. Reading is Egan is like having a PHD in mathematics and a PHD in quantum physics, then going to Burning Man and doing 16 hits of acid.

I finally got around to trying The Long Way To A Small Angry Planet and I could NOT get into it. I agree with reviewers who complain nothing interesting ever happens.

People keep recommending Mary Robinette Kowal, but something about the alternate history just doesn't grab me.

People keep recommending Ted Chiang. But I don't want short stories (Murderbot somehow managed to be an exception). The longer the better.

People have recommended the Last Watch by J. S. Dewes, but others have told me things about the book that makes me think I won't like it. Standing guard at the edge of the universe makes zero sense, I think by proposing it's possible you lost me. Edge of the galaxy... Maybe, with 10 septillion robotic war ships. But edge of the universe? I think I'm out. If you know something I don't about this book, feel free to say so.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

I devour books, so I'm bookmarking this as I am sure there will be some real good gems in here. Feels like a part time job finding new, and absorbing material.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Some that might not have been mentioned:

Will Wight the Cradle series. Kinda silly but definitely fun.

Julian May the Pleiocene Saga. One of my favorites. Written in the 90s so... Not current but still good.

Mark Lawrence - enjoying most of his books. The Impossible Times trilogy is certainly fun.

Richard Morgan used to be one of my favorites until Netflix ruined the Takeshi Kovacs books.

Again with the older authors: Philip K. Dick (everything). Vonnegut (most, but not the last few books) Gene Wolfe books of the new sun cycle, 12 books if you consider the books of the long sun/short sun. Kinda surreal but hypnotic and addicting. Strugatsky, Roadside Picnic. A classic. Ursula K. Leguin, most of her titles - not as easily read -as there is an emotional level that needs to be absorbed. The Books of Earthsea and the Dispossessed are absolute master level writing.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

Richard Morgan used to be one of my favorites until Netflix ruined the Takeshi Kovacs books.

They really, really did. As someone who loved the books, I found the show unwatchable, which bummed out a couple of my friends who hadn't read the books and were super excited to share this "great new cyberpunk show" with me.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago (1 children)

A lot of sci Fi fans also get on well with Terry Pratchett. The audio books are really good, although I prefer Stephen Briggs who did the 2nd half to Nigel Planer. You can't go wrong with Going Postal, it doesn't rely on much from the earlier books, or Men at Arms if you wanted an earlier book in the discworld series.

If you wanted to stick to sci-fi, The Stars my Destination is one of my favorites, it's a modern count of Monte Cristo. Speaker for the dead is also one of my favorites, the sequel to enders game.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

I agree the Stephen Briggs and Nigel Planer audio versions of Discworld are very good, but the newer ones with Colin Morgan/Indira Varma/Sian Clifford, Peter Serafinowicz and Bill Nighy are over the top good. I generally steer clear of "full cast narration" but this isn't that at all. Colin, Indira or Sian do the main narration, depending on if it's a Witches book (Indira), Death book (Sian) or Wizard, etc. book (Colin), the author's asides are Bill Nighy and Death is Peter Serafinowicz who absolutely nails the role.

Also- Terry Pratchett's Bromeliad series is technically (very soft) sci-fi.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

While you're listing a ton of authors, for those of us (🙋) less well read it unfortunately doesn't convey much about which styles or what content you like.

So I'm going to take a few shots in the dark here.

Have you read many online novels? I would recommend Worm (parahumans.wordpress.com) for its sheer length as well as its very different take on what a world with super powers might look like. I would also recommend Ra (qntm.org) for its very interesting approach of treating magic as an established branch of engineering. Both get sorta wild near their ends, but imho they are very well written.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

Worm is awesome! There's a fan created audiobook that's MOSTLY quite good (a couple of the readers are hard to listen to). It got me through a big move where I spent a month driving 2,000 miles every weekend.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

Read Sanderson’s library. Or just the cosmere. Well worth your time.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I'm not as well read as you, so I'm not entirely sure how these stack up against your list, but I enjoyed:

  • Steelheart by Brandon Sanderson. It's a YA-Sci-Fi book mostly about what if superheroes were real. Similar vein to The Boys, but not as graphic imo. It's pretty good and you might enjoy that. It also apart of a series called the reckoners

  • To Sleep in a Sea of Stars by Christopher Paolini. Paolini wrote the fantasy series "Inheritance" which I though was great and gave this a shot. It's was pretty good, a little slow, but I think that was more to show how slow would be in space even at >C travel.

  • Probably missed it, but have you tried any of Andy Weir's books? I really enjoyed Artemis and Project Hail Mary has been in my queue.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

Oooo and there's also the Cytonic series by Brandon Sanderson. Again, YA but really good (or at least up until book 3, I haven't finished 4 yet)

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

Martian read by RC Bray is infinitely better than Wil Wheaton.

PHM is great

But I'm mostly commenting to give a nod to the Reckoners series. It's a YA novel sure but it's a super interesting concept

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago

You are indeed well-read, and I'm finding it difficult to give you an entire list, based on your tastes (which are remarkably close to mine). The two authors that come to mind, whom I haven't seen on your list are

  • Greg Bear. Anything from him, but I particularly like the The Forge of God and Anvil of Stars duology. You complained about sad books, and these may be depressing, but it's some of the best writing that's still missing from your list.
  • China Mielville. Wonderfully weird and inventive books, in particular The City & The City and Perdido Street Station.

And since you mentioned Timothy Zahn, in comparison with Card, I take it you already read his The Icarus Hunt? If not, it's also highly recommended for its unabashed fun and good plot.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago

Thank you for this list, I just finished the sun symbol audiobooks by Scott Sigler (loved Ray Porter's narration) and was looking for more suggestions.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago

I barely read at all, but I just picked up House of Leaves, so far I enjoy it but the format of storytelling isn't something I think would work in an audio book.

My friend recently recommended The Three-Body Problem to my girlfriend.

So that's two blind shots for you, maybe you'll like one of them !

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Tried any Jack McDevitt? I like both of his main series (Alex Benedict and Priscilla Hutchins ones). Remember enjoying deep six, chindi, and seeker in particular. He has a unique feel which I think I saw someone describe as science fiction archaeology which I think is apt.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I liked Alex Benedict better than Priscilla Hutchins / Academy... but BOTH really suffer from "It is the far future and humans have spread across space into... an absolutely boring interplanetary monoculture identical to 90s era middle class American suburbia." I could only take that for like... ten books, lol.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

Very fair. Good luck finding a new book

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

John C Wright has Superluminary available on Audible look like

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Can I just say thank fuck I found someone else who doesn't like three body problem.

It's not just the heavy handed politics. It's literally everything about the book. Narrative devices used are absolutely garbage. Oh there's a video game for some reason, and people LARP as Newton and Qin Shih Huang down to their exact personalities. Why the fuck?

In the second book there's an entire section dedicated to the protag's fantasies. A woman should have at most a Bachelor's so she's smart but not smart enough (paraphrased). What the fuck? And don't get me started on the suicide bomb strat that immediately saw the Muslims and Japanese roped in.

The characters are incredibly dull. They just do one thing, but they don't even do that well. Oh here's Mr. Army guy; personality: army salute-y pragmatic unfeeling. The only character that has an added dimension would be Da Shi the policeman, but adding one more dimension to a point simply results in a plane.

People claim he had innovative ideas for sci-fi. They do realise that the Dark Forest Hypothesis was proposed by someone other than cixin, right?

This turned out to be a rant -- could you tell I hate-read this book cause it pissed me off to no end?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, maybe not talking about more of what happened during the Cultural Revolution? I thought he did a good job, portraying the awfulness without getting off-topic. Or the reader may have been expecting something less banal? I've read propaganda works with a strong bend against a country's before, like Heart of Darkness, or in a more light-hearted manner, Catch-22. I'd be curious what the OP felt was too pro-china, as it was something that went completely by my radar.

I thought Liu Cixin portrayed the US quite favourably in the second book, I was pleasantly surprised. Really took a 'equal but different' approach to other cultures I feel.

Trisolarians suck though, except for that one cool one.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I'm with you, I thought it came off as decidedly anti-China. I was actually surprised they got away with it!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

Yeah reading what happened (outside of the book) the same vibes are there. It really made me think the endorsement on the cover from obama was genuine lol

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL0TV2mCk83zD3kPUbYdaJbplUOXvScjtD&si=Tke-QixQ31F3EGw0

The Deathworlders, by Hambone, The Xiu Chang Saga by Rantarian, Salvage by HumeReddit, and Humans Don't make good pets, all decent stories set in what gets referred to as The Jenkinsverse by fans of the series.

Salvage is longer than what is included in that listening order, but that's cause HumeReddit dropped into a parallel universe after chapter 60 to 70 or so. Once Adrian blows up a black hole or something.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I wanted to recommend this series but didn't for lack of an audiobook. I didn't know someone had narrated it

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

He's not done. I think he's on chapter 60ish of 90 something. He's finished both Salvage and The Xiu Chang Saga

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