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Missouri Sen. Josh Hawley’s recent First Things essay, “Our Christian Nation,” may warm the hearts of Christian nationalists and confound historians and theologians who worry about continuing threats to the separation of church and state.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago

I'm pretty sure Mr. Hawley is just the sort that will appeal to whatever fears and hatred will drive his base to the election polls. Either he'll get betrayed once the Wolf's Lair decides his kind are the next on the purge list, or he'll get executed by the Allies for being a high-ranking officer in a fascist autocracy.

And if he somehow escapes, the Nazi hunters will be on his tail for the next half century.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago

I'm sure Jesus would be so pleased to know that his image is used to bring power to the American christofascists. 🙄

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Such bullshit. The left isn’t atheist. The left just says you can believe in whatever god you want, or no god at all, just don’t tell us we have to believe in your god.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Mr Divorcee needs to shut the fuck up.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago

Very Christian.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Why does he look like a half-chewed dog's toy?

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (11 children)

The same Josh Hawley who tried to overturn the 2020 election? The same who egged on insurrectionists outside the capitol on Jan 6th?

I just want to make sure we are talking about the same Missouri Sen. Josh Hawley here, so there's absolutely no confusion.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Well, that's interesting Josh Hawley, but the whole 'separation of church and state' thing says you're wrong. I'm sorry you don't like it but you're more than welcome to go fuck yourself.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Consider the SCOTUS has now established "deeply rooted in our nation's history and traditions" as the test for whether something is constitutional or not... his viewpoint will certainly resonate there.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago

Yes. It's disgusting. Judges are not supposed to be politicians and these Christofascists use some real pretzel logic interpretations of law to come to their conclusions.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I would happily kick Josh Hawley in the dick, so I don't give a shit what he thinks.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago

I'd aim for the balls, personally.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I'm reasonably certain that I can count on one hand the number of times Hawley or his GOP ilk have ever set foot in a church outside of a planned photo op.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

stats say a lot of the MAGA crowd really are churchgoers, its just the ones they go to are insane.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago

Oh no doubt. In a way, that's entirely my point.

These GOP politicians don't give a shit about "christian values". They just lean hard into it in order to capture that voting block.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (2 children)

These fascist traitors need to be put in their place.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

Yeah at least six feet away from the rest of humanity

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Trump losing in November should just about do it. I don’t see how the GOP donors can keep pumping money into something that’s just not fucking working electorally.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago

I think thats why they're trying to undermine elections using legislatures and courts

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

What exactly does he mean with revival? Back when the US were a British colony? Because the USA are not a Cristian nation and never were.

So is he a monarchist?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Used to listen to a local, conservative radio host. Great guy, really. Lady called in around Christmas talking about America always being a Christian nation.

"Well, not really. Our founding fathers were mostly Deists and the like..."

"That's what I said, CHRISTIAN."

"Well, no they weren't. In fact, they were against proclaiming America a Christian..."

"Yes! You're right! CHRISTIAN!"

The caller walked away thinking the host was agreeing with her!

Luke gave it up around 2007/08, something like that. Fuck me. If Luke McCoy wasn't conservative enough... Anyway, Luke died in 2016. Thank god he didn't see today's breed of right-wingers.

There used to be sane voices on the right. Maybe I didn't agree with them, but they weren't bug fuck nuts.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago

And it should be noted that someone being a Diest then is very similar to an atheist now. The founding fathers were largely either the equivalent of atheists or of radical left wing Christianity

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago

Rot in hell, extremist Christian fuck-face.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Dear Josh:

Treaty of Tripoli, ratified by the US Congress 11/4/1796.

"Article 11.
As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion; as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion, or tranquility, of Mussulmen (Muslims); and as the said States never entered into any war or act of hostility against any Mahometan (Mohammedan) nation, it is declared by the parties that no pretext arising from religious opinions shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries."

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

And to be absolutely clear, ratification of a treaty makes all the language therein U.S. law unless struck down by the courts.

It has never been struck down by the courts.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Does that mean that the general aspects of a treaty become international policy? Like does the treaty of Tripoli act as legal precedent when establishing agreements with Brazil?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Pretty much all international policy has been renegotiated. However, no one has renegotiated that treaty because the Barbary States no longer exist. As far as I know, that doesn't make it any less law.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Fucking revisionist, fantasy bullshit, call it out for what it is and QUIT GIVING IT THE OXYGEN OF MEDIA ATTENTION.

That’s how ya starve the beast.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

ignoring fascists doesn't make them stop.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago

Problem being, the people who wish to fight back are also the same people who want our guns taken away. It's a bit of a mess.

This particular lib is good to go. Take that as you will.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago

I'm not sure baptistnews.com is interested in doing that

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago

Good luck with that, asshole.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

As an atheist lefty, Im proud to be considered this traitor's enemy.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I ask you to judge me by the enemies I have made.

  • Franklin Delano Roosevelt
[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago

FDR must have been a terrible person, his enemies HATED him!

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