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[–] [email protected] 37 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

🌈 shareholders 🌈

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Just watched a video on the failure of windows phone, they went from 34% market share ( world top 1) to 1.4% in 5 years. Then they recover a little bit to 3%, just to drop to 0.4% 5 year later and then completely dead 2 years after.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (3 children)

Never at any point in time did the Windows phone reach 34% market share or anywhere near #1. I’m not even sure Windows phone had a bigger share than BlackBerry at the time.

Their peak market share was 3.4%, not 34%. It failed because virtually nobody bought them.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The only piece of Microsoft tech that I actually loved, so sad it flopped. I had two Windows phones, beautiful devices. Gorgeous screens, great design, the Windows 8 tiles unironically were fantastic on mobile.

Everything was butter smooth, I never had them crash or freeze up. Zeiss cameras, they took great pictures.

But there were almost no apps for them. It was basically the Microsoft mobile office suite, and a few random ports like Evernote. Nobody bought them because there was zero ecosystem for them.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

if you keep look at the mirror you crash at the end.

[–] [email protected] 59 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 months ago

Yeah they had an accountant for a CEO that didn’t understand R&D, so they fell behind.

[–] [email protected] 96 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Probably bureaucracy. Also an inability to pivot even when things make no sense. Everything is a giant freight train that has very little ability to change direction or stop.

Oh and of course a healthy taste of not being transparent or honest.

Source: I used to work there years ago.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 3 months ago

This happens easily for big successful organisations. Over decades a strong culture aligned with how they succeed forms. Once the market changes requiring a culture change, a seemingly invincible company suddenly stumbles. They simply can’t respond even if they what they should change.

Ex. Rolls Royce CEO stated this phenomenon well: culture eats strategy for breakfast.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Anything they go after today is 18-24 months out. Chasing after AI would be pretty risky. Desktops and laptops are moving to ARM and RISC-V. Their best bet is to go after whatever enterprise data centers will need a couple of years from now.

If I were laying bets, it would be to go after power and heat efficiency. Like, hard. Take their time out in the wilderness, then come back with chips that save the planet from climate collapse.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 3 months ago

Their ISA is not their only strong side, so they can reuse a lot of designs and expertise for making ARM and\or RISC-V ISA CPUs.

But they will have to do catching up in, ahem, making things that last more than 2 months again.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

I think they'll recover. Letting them fail would be a national security problem.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Oh they won't die. The question is will they recover to their old market position, will they downsize and be second fiddle to AMD but remain generally profitable, or will they have a slow managed decline like IBM?

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Poor practices. They focused on shorr term gains over quality.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 3 months ago

Their solution? Lay off a bunch of people to reduce costs and increase profitability immediately.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Intel was once a Silicon Valley leader.

Well, any specific stuff that Intel has done recently aside, Silicon Valley has been more about software, not hardware, for quite some years.

Intel is a hardware company.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago

hardware and software have taken turns in long waves for 50 years. like for self driving cars right now, the hardware is ready but tue software is catching up. intel hasn't led the bitcoin/ai waves, and microsoft is no longer married to intel, and gaming and mobile phones aren't intel either. they are late to RISC/ARM, etc. they are too big to survive on niche and they are missing lots of major waves.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 months ago

Going through a period of little competition in a space seems to do that to just about every company in that position.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

Mobile strategy, I.E. lack thereof.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 months ago
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