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Seen this on reddit and thought it was an interesting question that largely is not talked about.

It is largely an issue that gets sidelined and hidden because people don't want to talk about it or accept that it exists. Hopefully this gets some traction to break that marginalisation.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

I don't use twitter

[–] [email protected] -1 points 3 months ago

Lol! What misandry?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Lmao this is already getting brigaded -10 votes op. Just for asking a question. But yeah i just laugh it off as crazy feminist agenda sad femcel shit. My current gf was a strong feminist when we met but eventually she stopped socializing with feminists and has a more healthy mindset and works on improving herself and our home instead of the hyperfocus on misandry. I never really talked her out of it, she just grew out of it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I don't think it's brigades, I think people just generally didn't like the tone. I didn't vote on this post but I did question the OP's experience and intent when asking so bluntly and describing it as "marginalization".

And more to the point, comments such as yours, which equate "feminism" with "misandry" are likely a bigger contributor to why people don't appreciate this post overall.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

That comment didn’t equate them, but rather associated them.

And they are associated.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

At the extreme ends, sure. But we can't discuss them as if they're representative of the general concept. I don't go around identifying myself as a feminist unprompted but I do believe in equality for all. And I don't see how that means us men will suddenly have to be second class next to women. It's equality, it's equal. I'm not suggesting we shift who's in power but rather we should balance it evenly.

Do you see where I'm coming from at all?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

I run into far more misandry in real life than online.

I joined a men’s group so I can have a place that what I am is celebrated.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago

It's not very common. When I encounter it, I tend to get angry, as I do against all bigots.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

Ignore it and no.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 months ago (1 children)

It is annoying, thankfully quite rare. No way to defend against it either because then you're mansplaining.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

Far worse than mansplaining, when you mention or react to misandry you are demonstrating signs of being on the slippery slope to becoming a mass shooter.

(Not something I believe; reporting what the zeitgeist claims)

More generally, there is an archetype of a “man who’s gone bad” and human society tends to view such men as extremely dangerous (because they can be).

At our current time in history, the tolerances on acceptable male behavior are extremely tight, and it doesn’t take much for a man to become marked for disposal.

The mechanism we currently use is this notion of a “pipeline” by which men who grumble about being mistreated are considered to be destined for total severance from decency and a descent into individual terrorism.

But really, it’s just an intensification of the ever-present male disposability. The enhancement is caused by the fact that the mating ratio has changed. With the proliferation of tinder and other hookup apps, a successfully-mating man can fuck hundreds of women per year.

This means the number of men we can dispose of while still maintaining a sense of generational reproductive security has gone up, and our collective unconscious is therefore searching for reasons to dispose of men.

That’s the underlying psychosocial energy pattern. The manifestation is an expansion of all categories related to “dangerous man”.

Just like the system criminalizes crack way more than cocaine, as a way of targeting black people, which is an expression of racist psychosocial energy, manifesting in legal excuses to lock black people up.

The same thing happens with men, by modulating the levels of male disposability via cultural rules.

This is, fundamentally, why men feel more and more constrained to act in a narrow band of acceptable behavior.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I had to google what that even means.

I'm more or less unaffected by it. This sort of opinions only matter to me when it's coming from someone whose opinion has some value to me. The views of a random internet user are practically meaningless to me. Any hateful or idiotic comment directed at me or anyone else just gets the user blocked and I move on. Offence is taken, not given.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

What the hell are you talking about??!!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

What’s with the hysterical punctuation?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 months ago

I treat anyone with a hatred against a gender the same as a racist - they get blocked.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I deal with it in the same way I deal with misogony, I realize that everyone has their own experiences and that some dislike either way is to be expected, but if someone fixates on either I ignore them and more on.

I have much better things to do than arguing with hateful people on the internet.

I know you want to focus this thread on misandry but I had a learning experience with dealing with misogony a few years back...

I am a man, and back in 2011 when I first joined Reddit I was feeling a bit lost, I recently graduated, I had got my first job, wasn't a good fit, I was lonely and depressed.

I was (still am) fat and balding, had never been in any kind of relationship, I was feeling resentment, and didn't know where to channel it.

As I joined reddit I found the subreddit MensRights, and thought that it was interesting to learn about issues affecting men rather than hearing only about issues affecting women.

So I joined the subreddit, and over the next few years I read stories about how men were mistreated, and how unfair life was for us.

It was interesting, felt like I had discovered the final puzzle pieces that would complete my social understanding of society.

But, after a few years of having MenRights in my Reddit feed daily, I started noticing that I started disliking women in general.

I never wanted that, I realized that if I wanted to have any chance to find a woman as a partner or just as a friend, something needed to change, and after looking at the mental puzzle mentioned above, I realized that the peice I thought was the final peice had grown, and pushed everything out of alignement.

So I cut out MensRights from my subscriptions, and just decided to ignore it, and that did wonders for me, I don't feel any hate or dislike for women any longer, I still don't have a partner, but that is my own issue to deal with, and it is unfair to take it out on others.

Cutting out MensRights was harder than I thought, I had to properly decide and tell myself to do it, I suppose it was a coping mechanism.

My point to all of this is that while you can't change other's oppinions online, you can change what communities you engage with, be critical and analyze which communities affect you in what ways.

Or to put it like the WTYP podcast often say, you can just leave, there is nothing forcing you to stay in communities that are full of misandry or misogony, you can just leave.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Does it affect me negatively? sure. Does it affect me on a personal level? Absolutely not. I guess I view it with a kind of sad condescension, like: “I’m sorry society is so fucked up that you feel it necessary to lash out like that. I’m trying my best, but I’m only one man.” Now that I think about it, I’m not sure what the says about my engagement with system. I’m going to have to ruminate on that…

Down with the patriarchy!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

That's not really condescension imo. Just empathy.

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