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Tulsi Gabbard left no doubt when she testified to Congress about Iran’s nuclear program earlier this year.

The country was not building a nuclear weapon, the national intelligence director told lawmakers, and its supreme leader had not reauthorized the dormant program even though it had enriched uranium to higher levels.

But Donald Trump dismissed the assessment of U.S. spy agencies during an overnight flight back to Washington as he cut short his trip to the Group of Seven summit to focus on the escalating conflict between Israel and Iran.

“I don’t care what she said,” Trump told reporters. In his view, Iran was “very close” to having a nuclear bomb.

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 week ago
[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 week ago

We have irrefutable proof, that we can't show you, that Iran is stoning babies in the incubators with yellow cake.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago

America loves war. Simple as that. Bushes weapons of mass destruction was a guarantee that other nations had destructive weapons when they didn’t, but was motivation to get into a conflict that had nothing, zero, nada, zilch to to with the original reason of invading in the first place (911)

America is a disgusting whore of war. Actually they are good at starting a war, but similar to almost every man over 60, they have a hard time finishing, pull out, and leave the host to clean up their mess.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I wouldn't tryst Gabbard on this either since she's very likely a Russian agent and Iran is a partner to their war efforts.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

On the bright side, though, if Russia is actively covering for Iran and Trump is aligning against that, then Putin might finally decide Trump has outlived his usefulness as an asset and send Trump some of his special tea....

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago

Russia only cared slightly, Trump blocked Russian sanctions already passed by Congress and stepped in to stop Ukrainian attacks on Russian oil and Russia will not burn such an asset for a minor partner catching this kind of heat (or any partner, since they "don't have the cards" as Trump would say if he wasn't a complete pushover for Putin)

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[–] [email protected] 58 points 1 week ago (1 children)

why tf would a fascist dictator give a rat's ass about "reasons" to plunge multiple countries into war? he wants war, that's what's going to happen

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Tbh this is not specific to trump. Gulf wars happened the same way.

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Are we now choosing to believe what Tulsi says because it fits the narrative?

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 week ago (5 children)

The alternative is believing Israel's government...

And they're an openly genocidal far right government made up of violent religious extremists...

Like, America is bad right now

But Israel has been on some straight up Nazi shit for a while now, because both Biden and Trump let Israel do whatever

Saying Iran isn't building nukes is the most pushback Israel has gotten since Obama was in office

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 week ago (2 children)

This alternative is to believe the assessment that nuclear regulators made that they were stockpiling 60% enriched uranium and installing new centrifuges that could further enrich to weapons grade even faster. AFAIK there is no other plausible explanation for doing this, nuclear reactors only need 5% enrichment or so:

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/could-iran-have-been-close-to-making-a-nuclear-weapon-uranium-enrichment/

https://www.iaea.org/sites/default/files/25/06/gov2025-24.pdf

It's also not a great look Iran immediately talks about testing a nuke a day after the attack. Despite that obviously being a lie, it at least makes it clear they don't seem to be trying very hard to hide it.

I'm sure Netanyahu has all kinds of nefarious reasons for doing this and with this timing, but this pretense at least seems pretty solid unlike Gaza and I'm sure there is genuine concern throughout their citizenry over how Iran would use them against them.

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[–] [email protected] -5 points 1 week ago (3 children)

So what? Just because she pushed back she’s now trustworthy? For fucks sake, screw your head on straight.

Also why are you even intent on defending Iran, an openly genocidal far right government made up of religious extremists? There’s no good guys in this fight.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Iran is authoritarian and brutal but this is the first I'm hearing of genocidal.

Got any examples I can look up?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

They certainly call for genocide pretty often.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

You don't have to trust her.

But if she says the sun will come up tomorrow, it doesn't mean we need to plan to live the rest of our days in fucking darkness man...

Like. You understand that right? Someone can be a habitual liar, but that doesn't mean the opposite of everything they say is true.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

I understand that, but it seems habitual liars are not lying only when it fits the narrative.

There’s plenty of evidence that points to Iran building a nuke. They are not the good guys, so excuse me for being unconcerned about their literal dictatorship getting blown to hell.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

There’s plenty of evidence that points to Iran building a nuke.

By all means share it with the class...

Because Israel's government isn't. And neither is any other government.

So I'm sure lots of people would absolutely love to see your proof

Otherwise, it's more likely Israel is lying because they've been saying Iran is a few years away from having nukes for literal decades. It means as much as Elmo saying Tesla will have auto omous driving in a few years

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Someone else did it, see above.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Christ's sake...

This is the fediverse, you can't assume everyone sees the same comments when everyone's on different instances. And that's not even getting into how people block other accounts.

This is like pulling fucking teeth. So speaking of block lists...

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[–] [email protected] 114 points 1 week ago (2 children)

He's an idiot who has never been able to distinguish between his fantasies and reality

He's spent a lifetime making shit up, and never being held to account for it

He's a child, and what's worse, he has dementia.

He also lies as easily as he breathes. Truth means nothing to him. He sees being honest as a weakness

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago (2 children)

He is. She is a Russian asset.

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[–] [email protected] 51 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Just the person to entrust the most powerful military of the world with.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

Yeah? Well my pop tart fell on the floor this morning. I think I'll sit out 2028.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 week ago (1 children)

"But what choice do we have? Entrust the military to a lady? We'll take the dementia-addled toddler instead"

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Don't forget that under the orange paint, he's white

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (9 children)

Didn't matter. Look at the three elections that Trump ran, and his performance against the candidate with a penis vs. the ones without one.

The American electorate will vote for a Black penis-haver (particularly if he is a baller) over any vagina-haver right now. They still won't say "I'm a sexist pig" in the exit polls, though, so we get reasons like "She didn't explain her policies enough" or "She wasnt authentic enough" instead.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Maybe I’m just being hopeful, but I don’t think the vagina thing is as big of an influence as it seems. First, we only have a sample size of two.

One of them, Clinton, was just an objectively awful person. She wasn’t popular with anyone, including women.

The second, Harris, had an abbreviated campaign caused by Biden’s unwillingness to step down. She also wasn’t built up in preparation fora campaign during her VP term. On top of that, she was very unexciting policy-wise. Basically status quo when everybody is clamoring for progress.

Contrast that with Obama, who ran on “hope and change” and got people excited for actual progress. Which he didn’t deliver, but that’s another story.

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