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[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 month ago

How old this be inductive reasoning?

Surely the philosopher is the one looking for definitions..

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I'm surprised the 6 year old knows factorials.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

Not only that, it is mathematically correct, at least given the usual definitions of 1, 2, +, and !

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

Math isn't induction. Its deductive logic.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You forgot accountant

"What do you need it to be?"

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

We need to report negative earnings so we don't have to pay taxes obviously

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You can't put an expression on the left-hand-side of the assignment operator.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

You need more expressive languages.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 month ago (1 children)

1 + 1 is not equal to a question mark.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

What did 1 minus 1 equal before zero was invented? 🤔

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago

Yeah, define "zero".

The one invented on India at around the Middle Age is a different one. The one you are asking about is very old.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

new captha alert 1 + 1 = 2 to enter

[–] [email protected] 54 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Engineer: 2, but 3 to be safe.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The budget is for 1.5, make it work.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 month ago

Oh, hi Boeing Manager.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Wouldn't they just look up the answer in a table?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago

Nah not anymore, now you spend a day or so building some convoluted excel calculator once so that you never need to do the calcs again.

Then, 3 years later when you go to add or change something in that calculator, you have absolutely no idea how it works and decide the change wasn't that important anyway.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago
[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

ok, I define 1 as {∅} and 2 as {∅, {∅}}

proving the addition holds is slightly more complicated

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I really recommend the YouTube channel "Another Roof". His first few videos were building up exactly this idea, as well as building up all the real numbers (possibly complex too if I'm remembering correctly). Sounds like a dry topic but he uses humour really well throughout. https://youtube.com/@anotherroof

Here is a playlist of the topic: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLsdeQ7TnWVm_EQG1rmb34ZBYe5ohrkL3t

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

ooh, that looks interesting!

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago (2 children)

+ is a map from N×N to N where a + 0 = a and a + S(b) = S(a + b) (S is the successor function that gives the next number).
Then 1 + 1 = 1 + S(0) = S(1 + 0) = S(1) = 2.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

seems a little sus to use + to define +

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago

No, it's correct. You define the operation by it's properties. It's not saying that "a plus 0 = a" but "the result of applying the binary operation '+' to any number with 0 should give the original number."

  • is just a symbol. You could instead write it as +(a,0)=a and +(a,S(b))=S(+(a,b)).

You have to have previously defined 1=S(0), 2=S(1), 3=S(2), and so on.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I love the comment that it's "occasionally useful"

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Hmm yes.. set theory... I don't understand anything happening here

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

There is actually a really good explanation for us math-curious non-mathematicians here:
https://blog.plover.com/math/PM.html

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

That's some good read, thank you so much.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

How would a two year old know factorials?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Computer Scientist: 0 and a carry bit

Mathematician: S(1)

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago

Terrence Howard : 2 !! Also 1x1=2 !!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

I appreciate the latex-style quotes around the mathematician's 1

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

What's great is the kid is correct even with the factorial

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago

Quantum physicist: Whats the uncertainty?!

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 month ago

1+1=3 in cases of large 1's

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