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Documenting hate speech, conspiracy theories, apologia/revisionism, and general tankie behaviour across the fediverse. Memes are welcome!


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Hate-Speech — You should be familiar with this one already; practically all instances have the same rules on hate speech.

Apologia(Using the Modern terminology for Apologia) No Defending, Denying, Justifying, Bolstering, or Differentiating authoritarian acts or endeavours, whether be a Pro-CCP viewpoint, Stalinism, Islamic Terrorism or any variation of Tankie Ideology.

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This is the kind of content the .ml admins cultivate through their bans and censorship. They'll frequently remove articles from credible good sources that directly go against their narratives, while allowing misinformation and conspiracy websites to include RT, Sputnik and (as shown) random substack blogs as long as they tow the narratives that align with them.

E.g. Ukraine is a Nazi regime and Russia is just "liberating" the Ukrainian people

Join the lemmy.ml boycott today and help foster a better Lemmy-verse! No more posts, comments (except to counter their propaganda ofc!) or upvotes on any comms on the Lemmy.ml instance!

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

well just blacklist them, make it an echo chamber so it doesn't show literally anywhere else in the fediverse

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago

It gives them more strenghts. The same happened with /thedonald.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Unfortunately, the "block" isn't really a block on Lemmy, it's barely a mute and that goes for user and instance blocks. Because dessalines refuses to implement a proper system (unsurprisingly). It's been 4 years since "blocks" rolled out

In any case it still allows their toxicity and misinformation to spread, trolling new users who come here unaware of the need to block and such

Really, the best answer is to call for wide defederation like the rest of the Tankie Triad is treated

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I think ultimately issues like this will be why I don't choose Lemmy when I finally get around to standing up my own threadiverse node.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

PieFed! I'm more attached to Boost than the underlying server software anyways, so if it ever gets PieFed support I'll be leaving for that

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago

I'm leaning that direction if only because I have decade-old Python experience which I could potentially dust off and use to contribute to development if I start "dogfooding" PieFed and find things I want to fix or improve.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

.ml is great if you need to borrow some crayons. But that's pretty much all they're good for.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 19 hours ago

i’d prefer to borrow crayons without having to dig them out of peoples noses tyvm

[–] [email protected] 44 points 23 hours ago (3 children)

This is why I don't donate to the devs because it indirectly goes to .ml. This is also why people think Lemmy is nothing but tankies because they're ok with that image.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

i’m so glad piefed is picking up steam! once voyager support is good i’m done with lemmy and donating to piefed

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 hours ago

Still waiting for that to jump ship

[–] [email protected] 18 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

I recommended to people to go to Lemmy, and then I got told "you mean the place where it is full of tankies?" Tankies give the entire community a bad name.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 hours ago

interestingly, a healthy portion of thethreadiverse is quite anti-tankie precisely because of these instances.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 23 hours ago

This is also why people think Lemmy is nothing but tankies because they're ok with that image.

Which is why I advocate for pushing large instances, like .world, to defederate as they have for the other 2 instances in the Triad

We can't force .ml offline and we can't force them to install an actually unbiased and fair admin team.

But we can control our association with them, if the rest of the network defeds from them at the very least we can all say "yea they're there, but we've cut ourselves off from them because they're nuts" and I think that could go very far

[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Oh damn, they're not even pretending to not being a Russian mouthpiece anymore?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)

They straight up tell to the face of the victims of communist genocide and mass murders that "its your fault your country was completely inhibited by nothing but literal SS nazis and honestly that also makes you a nazi"

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 hours ago

You can go point by point comparing russia and nazi germany. All they have to say is well it can apply to any western country as well.

This is all vibe based ideology. Like MAGA, fascism and nazism was.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 22 hours ago

I don't remember a time where they attempted to pretend. It's just recently they started getting heavy with the site wide bans though.

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