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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/11789263

Canada declares Flipper Zero public enemy No. 1 in car-theft crackdown

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Of course, they don't work on vehicles with rolling codes like, you know, all of them since the 90s. But don't let the facts get in the way of a good do-nothing press opportunity.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 10 months ago

Ima just leave this here...

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/cbsa-investigators-auto-theft-1.7108145

Yes yes it's the flipper's fault /s

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Aw fuck. I should've bought one as soon as I heard about the device.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

The price is what kept me from having one already. I always wanted a device like this since I was a kid and the idea was still science fiction.

Ironically, I first heard about it from a video review showing it doesn't actually do some of these hacks well or at all, such as opening a garage door by duplicating the code of the remote for the garage door.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago (2 children)

As far as I can tell, it hasn't been banned yet. So go get one and then don't get caught with it once the toothless ban comes into force.

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[–] [email protected] 86 points 10 months ago (4 children)

Sure, let's ban everything we don't understand and every tool that can be used to break into something. Next we'll be banning rocks because they break windows and crowbars because they can be used to jimmy locks.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago (1 children)

So they are saying I need to invest in one of these devices? I didn't even know it existed but after seeing what it can do I want one, thanks Canadian government.

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 10 months ago (2 children)

So basically, the government doesn't care about the issues and doesn't plan to do anything about it.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Nah, the politicians asked around, the automaker lobbyists blamed the device, some intern-slave wrote a halfass bill, and no one cared to stop fundraising as little power prostitutes long enough to question it.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Thats just what I said, but with more words

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[–] [email protected] 45 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Smh... Lol this is how you end up with widespread vulnerabilities in everything.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

Seems more to me like vulnerabilities are widespread in everything, and this thing ended up being made to exploit them?

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Wait, did you mean the same thing I said? Phrasing wasn't clear to me.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (3 children)

This is made to exploit them in the same way a knife is made to cut. It can be used for harm (although is a very weak, outdated tool for it that intentionally knee-caps this use) or it can be used for good, where it is a basic, unspecialized option that anyone can make or aquire. Like if the government tried to stop violence by banning knives, a ban would have little impact except on the least committed individuals (IE not organized crime) while being an annoyance to normal people by focing them to sharpen their own metal plates rather than buying them pre-made.

If they actually want to stop these crimes, more reasonable courses of action might be tracking what is shipped, acting on reports of stolen property, trying to impede large-scale organized crime when it is found, or requiring that vehicles maintain security protocols that take into account the existance of computers outside the vehicle.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Wow, I check back to see if clarification is available and now I have downvotes? People really are getting meanspirited on here.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Yeah I've started to notice people are engaging in less good-faith conversation than when I first joined Lemmy last summer.

I think a lot of ex-reddit users, after the initial excitement and novelty of the migration to Lemmy, eventually slipped back into their bad habits from reddit. Reminds me of this this blog post denouncing the unhealthy behaviours that are all too common of online discourse.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


Presumably, such tools subject to the ban would include HackRF One and LimeSDR, which have become crucial for analyzing and testing the security of all kinds of electronic devices to find vulnerabilities before they’re exploited.

This slim, lightweight device bearing the logo of an adorable dolphin acts as a Swiss Army knife for sending, receiving, and analyzing all kinds of wireless communications.

People can use them to change the channels of a TV at a bar covertly, clone simple hotel key cards, read the RFID chip implanted in pets, open and close some garage doors, and, until Apple issued a patch, send iPhones into a never-ending DoS loop.

The price and ease of use make Flipper Zero ideal for beginners and hobbyists who want to understand how increasingly ubiquitous communications protocols such as NFC and Wi-Fi work.

Lost on the Canadian government, the device isn’t especially useful in stealing cars because it lacks the more advanced capabilities required to bypass anti-theft protections introduced in more than two decades.

The most prevalent form of electronics-assisted car theft these days, for instance, uses what are known as signal amplification relay devices against keyless ignition and entry systems.


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