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A moderator of a community on Blahaj misgendered Me and I can't report it. (aussie.zone)
submitted 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
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Two hours ago I made a post to [email protected] about US politics. I had previously had a good relationship with the head moderator of this community. They've encouraged My political posts, and he's removed comments by people that misgendered Me, and reminded people of My pronouns, like in this thread two days ago:

https://imgur.com/RuNKgM1.png

https://imgur.com/GLT7HR0.png

However, an hour ago in this new thread, the same moderator who was telling people to respect My capitalised pronouns uses lowercase pronouns to address Me:

https://imgur.com/fmGtHvf.png

And he has left up earlier comments which also seemed to misgender Me, and which I specifically pointed out:

https://imgur.com/KZnosuC.png

Even as some users in the thread gender Me correctly:

https://imgur.com/EBuGfom.png

I'm making this thread in the main community because since the mod has banned Me, I can no longer report the comment or leave a reply correcting the pronoun. I would like to gain the attention of @[email protected]

Misgendering trans people and banning Them at the same time so They can't do anything about it is not the kind of thing I expect to see on Blahaj. This mod is clearly 100% aware of My pronouns, and made a choice here. I suppose they could be using the general "you", but it just doesn't look like that, what with banning Me, telling Me My post isn't welcome, and telling Me to go to a different community. I used to have a good rapport with this mod, they said several times that they valued My posts. I posted something he disagrees with, and now all of a sudden respecting trans people's pronouns isn't a priority anymore. He's misgendering Me and they're leaving up comments that also misgender Me. It feels targeted.

EDIT: I cannot seem to embed images. Every time I hit edit and fix the image links and press save, they change to some kind of aussie.zone image proxy link. For now I have left them as links without embedding them.

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 3 months ago

Capitalized pronouns.

This, folks, is how you delegitimize an entire movement in one easy step.

OP is mental.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 3 months ago

It's very simple, language is for the benefit of communication. Ain't nobody got time to fuck with hyper-specific pronouns. They/them is a well understood way to reference people; capitalizing that shit is confusing. Learn to get along with people, OP. Sometimes other people compromise for your, sometimes you compromise for others.

[–] [email protected] 114 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

Well, this is some terminally online bullshit if I've ever seen some.

Listen. I understand that we all want to be inclusive and I completely support this. I use this instance for a reason. But at some point, we have to draw some sort of line in the sand in cases like this. If you look at OP's history, you'll see that this is not a moderation problem, this is an attention seeker problem.

I've said it before in a comment that the moderation removed two days ago. Actually, it was removed for misgendering OP, I believe (didn't capitalize the pronouns), BY THE PERSON OP IS CALLING OUT HERE, too! So accusations of transphobia against that person are ridiculous, but anyway, I'm going to repeat it here: This isn't the first time I see this user post something, and I can't help but notice a pattern of aggressively dictating the way people should act. Not only this, but OP's already tried to pull something similar on Beehaw.

This has been on my mind ever since I first read the initial post a while back and I'm finally going to spill it. OPis literally the only person I've ever seen use "capitalized pronouns". And I mean, on it's own, that's not a problem. Lots of people have their own special pronouns, whatever. No, what I question here, is the motive. Because here is the thing: OP identifies as a god. This isn't coming from me, this is quoting from Grail's Medium profile. "Nonbinary Goddess" and there isn't even more details in this post. And I mean, yeah, that carries a ton of baggage, no wonder people had a problem with these pronouns.

Can we stop pretending that people are being transphobic because they question the fact that someone is self-identifying as a god, please? Let's all be honest with ourselves here: Being inclusive is not the same as enabling entitlement. And making accusations of transphobia for something like this is quite frankly disgusting.

Some of you need to log off, because transphobia is real thing. You can't just throw around this term like that. A few days ago, I was at a memorial surrounded by fellow trans people, grieving actual victims of transphobia, people who died for simply being who they are. Some of us are dying, some of us are being kicked off from their family, some of are being actually discriminated against, some of us are being harassed. This is what transphobia looks it. I'm sorry for being dramatic here, but come on!

If it can be explained by: "I'm was more focused on making my point and forgot to capitalize the pronouns", then I'm sorry, I refuse to call that "transphobia".

[–] [email protected] 54 points 3 months ago

Couldn't have said it better myself.

Growing up in a deep red area I could talk at length about the discrimination (transphobia, homophobia, racism, etc) I've seen first hand and the scars (both physical and emotional) that myself and people I know have from that experience.

I won't here because ain't nobody want to hear that shit.

OP really needs to step away from social media for awhile and cool off. Social media isn't what your life should orbit around, at most it should be a little seasoning on the banquet that is life.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

As a moderator of LibertyHub I apologize, I was busy within that time and was not available to notice this incident. I can assure you that as a Trans person I do not accept Transphobia and will deal with the situation accordingly.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 3 months ago (1 children)

You're right. I did misgender You in that report, and I apologize. I have no excuse because I'm well aware You use capitalized pronouns. I even tried to be careful not to do so, but I still failed. I'll fix it.

As for the comment I left up, the post is removed for violating the community rules, so I didn't remove further comments after I removed the post itself, but You're right -- I'll remove it.

The post was removed for a completely different reason. The post was encouraging people to lie in order to win elections -- erasing the experiences of groups such as Palestinians, immigrants, the economically disadvantaged, BIPOC, and LGBTQIA+ people. There's no way I was going to leave that up. Erasure is never okay.

It's very infrequent that I have to remove a post, but this one very clearly violated the community guidelines.

I have no problem with You as a person, and I've always appreciated Your meaningful and thoughtful contributions to the community, even when I don't fully agree. I'm sure You feel a bit hurt that I also applied a temporary ban for the post, but I did that because even though I personally like You and have tried to be nothing but an ally and friend, it would be completely inappropriate for me as a mod to show favoritism in such a case. I therefore applied the same temp ban I would to any other user who made such a post. It was genuinely nothing personal, and I'll be honest -- it wasn't even easy for me to do the right thing. I almost sent You a DM to explain the situation, but I wasn't sure it would be welcome. Now I wish I had.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I do believe in erasing the experiences of minorities. If I were living in Germany in 1939, I'd erase the experiences of the Jew living in My basement while talking to the Gestapo. I erase My own experiences all the time. I misgender Myself to stay in the closet to avoid violence. Never been out as goddessgender at work or school.

If what you are advocating is total exposure of all information having to do with minorities, you're talking about actions that will get people killed. That's why Republicans are trying to pass laws to require ID for Pornhub, you know. They want to know all about the lived experiences of gay and trans people by analysing our porn habits, so they can do violence against us. What you're speaking in favour of is genocide.

I am glad it was just a mistake, but it was a mistake that you prevented Me from fixing the easy way. I couldn't report the comment, couldn't reply. So I made this post, and had to put up with being grilled on My pronoun usage and told My identity is evil by various people. I didn't defend any oppressive systems, I outlined a strategy to just shut up for a few months until it's safe to act again without causing a genocide. I didn't break rule 2. But you did break rules 5 and 8. Shouting down leftism. No open discussion. I did everything I could to play by the rules and disagree with you politely. Maybe instead of making an exception for Me, it's time to actually enforce your community's rules by not being so ban-happy with everyone. What happened today was bound to happen eventually and it's going to keep happening as long as nobody's allowed to have an open discussion about the election on your community. Everyone who disagrees being banned is not an open discussion.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 3 months ago

Lying about harboring a Jew in Nazi Germany is understandable. I personally have lied about having undocumented people in my household.

Lying about a presiden committing genocide domestically and abroad is a totally different thing. This is more comparable to claiming that Hitler wasn't exterminating people in death camps. This type of lie results in erasure and should never be applied, especially not to garner votes in an election.

Lying and saying a president is trans-friendly when he literally just signed anti-trans legislation is also not okay. We need to be aware of what our government is doing.

But on an individual level? Absolutely. I'm actually in such a position at my own job, not as a teacher, but in which I do not disclose or even obfuscate certain facts about my clients. I would never out a queer person who did not want to be outed. I personally grew up in an extremely small conservative community where I feared for my life.

But again, that's not what the post itself was about -- it was about lying to win the election for Biden. That's how it violated rule 2. If it were about lying to protect marginalized groups, it would have absolutely been left up.

I outlined a strategy to just shut up for a few months until it’s safe to act again without causing a genocide

But here's where the erasure comes in: There is a genocide happening right now, like right this very moment, that wouldn't be possible without our president's support.

I hope I've addressed all Your points. In any case, I re-emphasize that I cannot allow a post that suggests we lie to cover/erase genocide, border fascism, transphobia, and any other form of oppression by the state, for the same reason that I wouldn't allow a Maoist to deny the people who died due to state-induced famine.

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