I don't know how many people care about it, but i like github "sort by thumbs up" functionality (see example) . it's a simple indicator of what is more or less valued by the community.
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GitHub constantly becomes more bloated, clunky and privacy/license concerning AI BS. It almost feels like using 2010 TFS server with git flavor. Unfortunately, It has a huge user base and it's hard to incentivize people to use other platforms.
It's easier for well-established projects to host their own git infrastructure. But for new projects and solo developer, it harder to get interaction on other platforms. I think that's why even Gitea team uses GitHub as a main location for development. Similarly, I still mirror my public repositories to GitHub for the same reasons even though I prefer using my own Gitea server.
Codeberg/Forgejo only supports Git for VCS which is a major downside. There’re good alternatives to Git, but their code forges are all pretty lackluster—and I continue to use them looking for tool/place to host.
Personally, it's because I don't code
I keep my closed source stuff on codeberg and open source mirrored on it and GitHub.
I find their wiki setup to be very unintuitive
I can't seem to set it up over my system
I can't log in at all in git
Forgejo/Gitea have their own CI/CD system which is better,
I didn't like their CI setup. I'm hoping to stick with GitLab despite the upcoming purchase and idiotic decisions like embedding VSCode and the new runner naivete, just for their better CI setup.
Already using Codeberg.
Holding back? I'm not held back. Codeberg would be a step back, I self host Forgejo and am so hyped up for forgefed.
I set up mirrors for my more important stuff to Codeberg and GitHub for visibility.
About CI/CD: does Codeberg not let you enable actions, which are basically the same as GitHub actions but for self hosting? That's what I use for my self hosted CI. I think you can add your own workers for orgs, repos, and profiles too on Forgejo, should be doable on Codeberg too. (I don't use Codeberg CI, only my own)
How do you feel about privacy/GDPR in relation to federated services like this? Seems a bit of a minefield and probably most all of those services are not technically legal.
Why exactly would it not be ok with the gdpr? I can't think of anything right now. Having a few diverse isn't really a new idea, it's basically the www all over again and mastodon and lemmy &Co exist already.
Or are you referring to registering CI workers? That might be a bit of a problem, yeah, as you're basically giving the git hoster remote code execution (on a docker container). Not really a problem if you host your own of course.
For one there's no incentive for individuals running an instance to care about compliance in the first place, regardless of the actual issues at play. One obvious issue that comes to mind is the right to be forgotten. FOSS software can be easily modified and if servers don't comply with such requests properly then your rights are being violated and good luck doing anything useful about it.
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It does. It applies to any service that has a single EU user. And that doesn’t mean someone in the EU. It means an EU citizen, even if they are living abroad.
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Anyone who ever hopes to actually move or operate in the EU will be forced to comply. So an instance owner in the fediverse might operate their instance out of the US. Then the US enacts some law to force handing over user data. The server owner wants to move (themselves or the server) to the EU. Well, they’re now fucked.
Or if an instance owner wants to sell something on the site, guess you’re not selling to 50% of your users.
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GDPR applies only to people (even non-EU citizens) who "live" on the territory of EU. EU citizens who leave, don't have the GDPR protection anymore. There was an affair last year when google started notifying people about transferring their account data to non-EU datacenters after it detected them connecting from a foreign IP when they went for a holiday to Thailand for a month. So clearly you have some misunderstandings of GDPR. Also GDPR prevents selling stuff??
That is incorrect. I implemented GDPR for a finance company whose lawyers are contracted to companies like Google to fix their legal mistakes so I trust the lawyers at that company far more than I trust Google’s. That affair you’re describing could easily be taken to court as they are failing to uphold gdpr.
And you can easily go look up the law yourself. https://www.compliancejunction.com/gdpr-frequently-asked-questions/
Does GDPR Apply to EU Citizens Living Abroad?
GDPR protects the personal data and the rights of data subjects as long as they are EU citizens, no matter where they are living.
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I'm gonna go ahead and say that the lawyers I implemented it for understand it a lot better than you (and yes even Google's lawyers).
If not in the EU, this doesn’t impact a business not planning to operate there.
it does if you ever will operate there though. Many many companies eventually need to do business in the EU. So not following GDPR is just asking to never be allowed to operate there ever. Fine for local newspapers, not fine for a finance company that eventually needs to do business across national boundaries.
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Most people aren’t companies. I’m guessing you’ve never run a company. You want to keep options open, for so many reasons.
@tyler Well, they are doing it: https://piunikaweb.com/2021/04/24/google-emails-about-change-of-country-of-association-issue-escalated/ When I followed the steps and wanted to set my country back to Europe, they responded "After reviewing your account, we think your current country association is accurate and we didn't change anything." (keeping the wrong one, non-EU country). Note Google LLC is in USA, Google Ireland Limited is in EU https://policies.google.com/faq#associated-country
contact your local Data Protection Authority. https://commission.europa.eu/law/law-topic/data-protection/reform/rights-citizens/redress/what-should-i-do-if-i-think-my-personal-data-protection-rights-havent-been-respected_en
I‘m way ahead of you. Using three forgejo instances and patiently waiting for federation. I love forgejo.
Honestly, I'm just happy with GitLab. Their CI is fantastic and the other built-ins are great too. I haven't felt the need to switch.
I don't know exactly about Woodpecker CI because I haven't used it very much, but GitHub Actions is Beta software. Has A LOT of bugs, no QoL features, spaghetti codebase, the Runners are AWFUL to selfhost... and I could go on.
A) I never heard about it before right now
B) Now I've only heard about it through ~~an ad~~ a post whose title looks exactly like an ad, so I'm negatively predisposed to it. But I guess any publicity is good publicity.
Nah, it's quite big and well known in open source circles.
You do you, though.
I use codeberg for public repos and gitlab for private repos (codeberg doesnt like people hosting private repos on there—theyll allow it but they strongly encourage people to make their projects public, especially after your repo reaches a certain size).
I wouldn't say that codeberg is not widely used. A lot of the software I use is hosted on there. I would say that the most common git hosting platforms I see for foss projects is github > self-host > sourcehut > codeberg > gitlab > other. But that's obviously a selected sample of the software I tend to use or at least browse.
Can you elaborate on their actions on discouraging users' private repo? Ty.
I was hosting a private repo on there and it got to ~100MB at which point there was a banner at the top of my repo basically saying that they would encourage me to make it public considering the size. I don't remember if they stopped me from doing further pushes because of the size or not, but at that point I moved it to gitlab
I don't think there's anything wrong with them doing this btw, they're not a cloud file hosting service, they're a foss-promoting git hosting service so I think it's reasonable enough that they prefer people share their projects especially beyond a certain size.
Good to know. Ty.
I don't really code, on the rare occasion that I do it's for some one-off thing I don't really care about maintaining or documenting.
I'll probably use Codeberg or another Forgejo server for my next programming project, if/when I have one that is far enough along to publish (motivating myself to get that far is a tall task). Until then, everything I'd consider contributing to is either on GitHub, or is self-hosting some other software, so I don't have a reason to create an account yet.
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