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In The Original Series in the 60s, people had no idea what the future would look like or what technology would look like. In one of the early episodes, they had a paper print out machine on the bridge that looked like a fax machine, which was considered futuristic in the 1960s.

Like the example of the Enterprise fax machine, what technology or system do you think are we displaying in the current Star Trek shows that will show how dated we will become in the future?

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[–] marcos@lemmy.world 14 points 10 months ago

that looked like a fax machine

Looks like nobody knows what a computer terminal looks like nowadays...

[–] Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee 5 points 10 months ago

Capitalism.

[–] MajorHavoc@programming.dev 14 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The fax machine is forever. There's a fax machine on the International Space Station.

Okay, I'm joking. But I bet you considered it for half a second, because fax machines have been that damn hard to get rid of.

[–] Jesus_666@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago (1 children)
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[–] over_clox@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Has anyone noticed the lack of trash cans in Star Trek? I guess they finally solved all the trash problems in the future...

[–] cm0002@lemmy.world 20 points 10 months ago (4 children)

It's mentioned a few times, replicators can work "in reverse". They'll put in trash, dirty dishes, old clothes, whatever is no longer needed back in for the replicator to break back down into energy for later use

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Seems like there’s a murder-mystery episode waiting to be written

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[–] over_clox@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Side question..

What do they do with the occasional dead bodies? Do they ever bring that up? I'd think that if replicators can work "in reverse", then they should also have their teleporters able to work similarly "in reverse", but not actually teleport the bodies anywhere, but rather absorb the raw atoms, molecules, and energy..

?

[–] cm0002@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Bodies are put in a photon torpedo casing and shot out during a ceremony in a "burial at sea" kind of way or occasionally brought back to earth if you're not lost in the Delta quadrant lol

[–] over_clox@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

Oh yeah that's right. I loosely remember the episode when Spock died.. ☹️

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[–] almar_quigley@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

Like the Prey recyclers. Not something I was aware of, neat.

[–] over_clox@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

Ah, okey dokey, gotcha. Can't say I've seen every episode there is, I haven't seen much Star Trek since the original series and the TNG series.

[–] linearchaos@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Cars that don't solar charge themselves.

Non-self-driving cars

Physical Mail other than packages

Passwords

Ad driven economy

Televisions anywhere but in a dedicated movie room.

Software ownership

Media Ownership

[–] Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago

I want to do to there.

[–] CarbonatedPastaSauce@lemmy.world -2 points 10 months ago (2 children)

You’re that guy that failed tests because you didn’t read the whole question, huh?

[–] Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

They literally described what we have now and ~~is~~ will look super stupid to (hopefully) not so distant future gens.

So yes, eg: 'the technology of not-self-drying cars will date us' I think.

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[–] DumbAceDragon@sh.itjust.works 9 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] nforminvasion@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

One can dream

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I'm not especially optimistic for our future, so I think what will date us in the future, if we're around much longer, is the technology we have that they can't anymore.

[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 15 points 10 months ago (4 children)

My guess is .... big giant spaceships

I think that future tech will have much smaller craft or technology to move people from one star system to another.

The giant starships we highlight in the shows today will be looked at in the future in the same way we look at people in the 1900s who thought that big giant cruise ships over the ocean would be the best way to travel around the world in the future.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Weirdly shaped starships.

  • Why wouldn’t they be mass-symmetrical around the propulsion?
  • why are some vertically oriented? Are these people constantly using elevators?
  • what’s with this saucer on a sausage thing ? There’s a lot of inefficiencies in building, maintaining, and using the ship.
  • If there is ever a time when a Starship can fly in an atmosphere, there’s going to have to consider aerodynamics
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[–] Emotet@slrpnk.net 8 points 10 months ago

Even skipping the point of travelling between star systems in the future, as that is highly doubtful at best, that's not a principle I subscribe to.

It's usually way more economical to go for scale rather than individualism, let's look at some examples.

Travelling by bus or train is way cheaper and more efficient than travelling by car. Travelling by cruise ship/ferry is way cheaper and more efficient than getting your own boat. Travelling by passenger plane is way cheaper and more efficient than travelling by business jet which in turn is more efficient than getting your own little plane, which might not even be able to get you where you want to go.

Generally, especially when involving long distances and the material needs associated with it, having a big enough vessel to share the costs and limit the need to restock (en route) to a minimum.

Bar safety, logistical and cost concerns, we could already cram a nuclear reactor in a car or a bus. We don't because it simply doesn't make sense.

I see no reason why that logic wouldn't apply to some magical device that would enable interstellar travel, even if it would be able to instantly teleport you to your location without having enormous energy requirements.

[–] Pancito@lemmy.world 13 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I mean it's not the best way to travel, but there have never been more cruise ship passengers than today.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

The concept of cruise ships to another star was done really well with this book, which I highly recommend if you can find a copy:

https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/388947.The_Transgalactic_Guide_to_Solar_System_M_17

Here's the cruise ship:

A luxury hotel:

And where would you be without entertainment?

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[–] Infynis@midwest.social 12 points 10 months ago (4 children)

I really doubt flying a spaceship will ever just be sitting in a bucket seat with a screen of touch controls

[–] riskable@programming.dev 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Yeah: It'll be your brain in a jar (or just stored digitally) and you'll just get a new body 3D printed when you arrive at your destination... After landing.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago (10 children)

You go ahead. I'll keep my brain inside my body, thank you.

[–] kaitco@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago

Considering how often it fucked up, I'd say she and McCoy were right on about the transporter.

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[–] kaitco@lemmy.world 28 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Having to voice commands to the computer. “Computer” will be part of the neural sync.

Also, typing anything or the use of buttons.

[–] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 3 points 10 months ago

I think calling for the computer is the same mentally as calling for a person.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 39 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Also, typing anything or the use of buttons.

I think drivers of newer cars are discovering that buttons can be a good thing sometimes.

[–] AppleTea@lemmy.zip 14 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, if anything the TOS ships are more realistic in regard to their interfaces. In an emergency, when you may not have lights or gravity or whatever, buttons and knobs come with certainty. Flat, featureless touchscreens? Not so much.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago

They also rely on less muscle memory, which could be a problem with a touchscreen if you're just marginally misaligned without realizing it.

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